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Old 02-17-2014, 10:32 PM   #11
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The .204 is an excellent varmint round;

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It really won't do anything that a .223 won't do, and .223 ammo/components are much more readily available, offer a larger selection, and are usually less expensive.

And should you decide to hunt deer, the .223 is capable in good handfs, nbd legal in most states.

Having said all that, if you already have a .223, the .204 is a truly excellent excuse to buy a new rifle!
i already had an AR in 223/5.56 and i always wanted a rifle in 204 Ruger, and i lucked upon a M700 in 204 at a really good price with a decent scope, so i bought it.

but i have to agree, the 223 can be more versatile.
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Ruger/Hornady built the round based on a 26-inch barrel. It works best at that barrel length.

The 39-gr bullet works well on coyotes. I've got some 45-gr that I loaded expressly to use on wolves. And before you say anything a couple of guys on the Ruger 204 forum, that hunt them in Canada, say the 45-gr whollops them out to 300-yds if you do your job on shot placement. And if you run the numbers, the 204 at 45-gr have as much energy at 300, as the 44mag has at the muzzle. The problem is how frangible the bullet is.

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Ruger/Hornady built the round based on a 26-inch barrel. It works best at that barrel length.

The 39-gr bullet works well on coyotes. I've got some 45-gr that I loaded expressly to use on wolves. And before you say anything a couple of guys on the Ruger 204 forum, that hunt them in Canada, say the 45-gr whollops them out to 300-yds if you do your job on shot placement. And if you run the numbers, the 204 at 45-gr have as much energy at 300, as the 44mag has at the muzzle. The problem is how frangible the bullet is.
you could always load a different style bullet.

check out these from Hornady.

http://www.hornady.com/store/20-Cal-.204-45-gr-SP/
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I've read that this is a good caliber for predators (fox/yotes) at 250 yds and in, with little recoil and can be loaded to minimize pelt damage. I see a number of rifles out there with varying barrel lengths. What effect does a barrel, say 2" longer than another, have on accuracy out to 250 yds.? CZ offers 2 rifles in .204. One has a 22" barrel and weighs 2 lbs less than the other with a 24" barrel. What would be the benefits of one over the other?

Can anyone recommend a good rifle in .204? Thanks.
CZ is an excellent rifle!! My 527 in .223 is going to be around for years.

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The .204 is an excellent varmint round;

BUT

It really won't do anything that a .223 won't do, and .223 ammo/components are much more readily available, offer a larger selection, and are usually less expensive.

And should you decide to hunt deer, the .223 is capable in good handfs, nbd legal in most states.

Having said all that, if you already have a .223, the .204 is a truly excellent excuse to buy a new rifle!
Agreed, but the .204 with the right conditions does have an edge at range w/ a bullet of the same weight. But then again, you can load much heavier bullets in .223 The CZ Rifles in .223 Have a CIP chamber, you can shoot Mil-surp ammo no problem

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Ruger/Hornady built the round based on a 26-inch barrel. It works best at that barrel length.

The 39-gr bullet works well on coyotes. I've got some 45-gr that I loaded expressly to use on wolves. And before you say anything a couple of guys on the Ruger 204 forum, that hunt them in Canada, say the 45-gr whollops them out to 300-yds if you do your job on shot placement. And if you run the numbers, the 204 at 45-gr have as much energy at 300, as the 44mag has at the muzzle. The problem is how frangible the bullet is.
Let me give you a little advice. The internet is full of experts. A 45gr .204 for wolves is plain stupid. If it has teeth and can run faster, jump higher and just may look at you and see a meal, you need more gun, lots more. I would consider 6.5x55, 7-08, .308, .30-06.. better options. You also better check your data. The 45gr SP has only 460fpe at 300 yards, not even close to .44 mag. at the muzzle. Now a 6.5x55 has 1243fpe w/ a 129gr at 300 yards. I'd feel a little better. If you have not done it, don't make a statement please.
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The .204 is an excellent varmint round;

BUT

It really won't do anything that a .223 won't do, and .223 ammo/components are much more readily available, offer a larger selection, and are usually less expensive.

And should you decide to hunt deer, the .223 is capable in good handfs, nbd legal in most states.

Having said all that, if you already have a .223, the .204 is a truly excellent excuse to buy a new rifle!
Thanks. I presently hunt deer with a bow only. When I can no longer do that I have a 12 gauge shotgun with a slug barrel and also a Remington .257 Roberts rifle that was my Dad's.
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Thanks. I presently hunt deer with a bow only. When I can no longer do that I have a 12 gauge shotgun with a slug barrel and also a Remington .257 Roberts rifle that was my Dad's.
That .257 Roberts is a classic. You already have one of the most versatile calibers ever. I would love to have a .257 Roberts. I've got a sweet 6.5x55, so the Bob can wait. But, some day!!!!
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That .257 Roberts is a classic. You already have one of the most versatile calibers ever. I would love to have a .257 Roberts. I've got a sweet 6.5x55, so the Bob can wait. But, some day!!!!

The .257 is a delightful little round.

I really believe that the main reason it didn't become more popular was the propensity of older hunters to use overly heavy bullets.

It's a deer rifle, primarily, and loaded with 90-100 grain bullets has a very flat trajectory and a lot of thump.. Almost like a .270.

But too many folks stuffed 120 grain and even heavier bullets in it.
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The .257 is a delightful little round.

I really believe that the main reason it didn't become more popular was the propensity of older hunters to use overly heavy bullets.

It's a deer rifle, primarily, and loaded with 90-100 grain bullets has a very flat trajectory and a lot of thump.. Almost like a .270.

But too many folks stuffed 120 grain and even heavier bullets in it.
Since it is based on the 7x57, heavier bullets should not be a negative, either should lighter. There are many old hunters that do use the .257 Roberts, but with the advent of uber calibers it has a limited following. BTW, I am not a fan of the .270. Between 6.5x55 and 7mm Remington Magnum, I have it covered up and down. For the reason it is a classic proven round .257 Roberts deserves its' place. Just like 7x57.
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the 257 Roberts is a fine cartridge. i regret ever selling mine years ago.

maybe one day i'll get another and it won't ever be sold or traded!

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the 257 Roberts is a fine cartridge. i regret ever selling mine years ago.

maybe one day i'll get another and it won't ever be sold or traded!
Unfortunately I came upon the rifle I have as a result of my Dad's death. It is a Remington model 722 in .257 Roberts. It has an old Weaver scope on it which I may replace with something better. My dad enjoyed blasting woodchucks with it as rifles were banned in Western NY for deer hunting. Not sure if that's still the case. I live up north where rifles are the norm for deer.

I bought the .204 Ruger for predator calling on those bitter cold dead still mornings we have up here. I wanted something that didn't kick like a mule and could leave the pelts in decent shape after the shot.
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