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Old 04-02-2012, 12:58 AM   #41
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I have a very heavy custom Tgt rifle in 7mm WM but I believe it w be a fatal mistake to shoot a Brown Bar w one.

In Alaska, the min caliber used to be 300 Weatherby Mag but where shooting distances are measured in feet not yards, most people opt for more gun.

I also agree w JPatterson in favor of the 9.3x62 w 286 gr projectiles it has been making an impression on large game since Otto Bock developed it in 1905. It's not a long range caliber but it just may be the perfect balance of power vs recoil in lighter & handier rifles.

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Old 04-02-2012, 01:58 AM   #42
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If you are going back to an old Ctg. go for a 45-120- 550. That will shoot with about anything. My personal choice for over 40 years has been the .338 Winchester using a 250 grs. bullet.

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i have a .338 win mag with a mil dot scope and way out there past 700 yards it doesn't perform as well as I'd like but out to 600-700 yards there isn't much it won't put down

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7mag all the way. Take it from someone who knows.

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Well just what do you know? Is it top secret? Maybe it is something you can enlighten us with? OK?

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Well just what do you know? Is it top secret? Maybe it is something you can enlighten us with? OK?
If he wants to shoot long range the best would be the 7 mag, hands down over the 338 win mag. Drops less, less recoil, universally more accurate than a 338wm. The 7mm is the benchmark. I load several 7mms and shoot them long range as much as possible.

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It is no secret that the 7mm mag was the secret service sniper rifle for years.
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If he wants to shoot long range the best would be the 7 mag, hands down over the 338 win mag. Drops less, less recoil, universally more accurate than a 338wm.
The heavier 338s buck the wind better for long range - don't get me wrong, I love my 7 mm for a med. game & Tgt rifle but "universally more accurate ?"

The biggest problem I have heard about 338s is when people buy them in light custom/stock rifles under the premise they will be carried a lot & shot very little. The recoil in a light rifle is fierce and then people don't or won't shoot as much as they would like to. All too often, just in the week prior to the hunt...
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If he wants to shoot long range the best would be the 7 mag, hands down over the 338 win mag. Drops less, less recoil, universally more accurate than a 338wm. The 7mm is the benchmark. I load several 7mms and shoot them long range as much as possible.

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The heavier 338s buck the wind better for long range - don't get me wrong, I love my 7 mm for a med. game & Tgt rifle but "universally more accurate ?"

The biggest problem I have heard about 338s is when people buy them in light custom/stock rifles under the premise they will be carried a lot & shot very little. The recoil in a light rifle is fierce and then people don't shoot as much as they would like to. All too often, just in the week prior to the hunt...
there is an article on AccurateShooters.com that goes into great detail about the 7mm caliber being more accurate at long ranges than other calibers, due to bullet weight vs. bullet length and BC. excellent information in the article and explains it much better than i can.

Gonzilla, you are right about the weight to caliber in regards to recoil from a 338. when that cartridge is in a sporter style hunting rifle, it is vicious. when mounted in a heavier, tactical rifle, it's much more manageable, especially when a muzzle brake is installed.

the difference i see between the 7mm caliber and the 338, is muzzle energy and the energy retained downrange at a long distance. if it is a target rifle, then the retained energy downrange is just needed to punch through paper. on a sniper rifle, they need the downrange energy to be able to eliminate the target, so there for the 338 is better suited for this job than the 7mm, plus being a larger and heavier bullet it will retain that energy better.
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Sound like a lot of wantabe rifleman. Why is the .338 Caliber weapons chosen by Snipers world over? They do not use 7MM at all, well maybe 100 years ago the old 7X57. The .338 proved its self 40 years ago in the 1,000 yard matches. Remington Arms pushed the 7MM Mag. with a number of long range reports on Mule Deer. The fellow that claimed all these long shots for Remington was Doyle Darner of Colorado. Darner was later found to be a poucher and a liar. Remingtons main promoter was arrested. Hell the 7MM Remington is little more than the old .280 if you want to push it. In order to get any stroke from the 7MM is to use the 175 gr. bullet. Most of the Soft Shoulders shooting them are shooting the light 140s and 150s etc. They will not reach out there. I note some idiot posted shooting 180s in a .338. That proves his lack of knowledge on long range rifles.

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