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Old 08-29-2012, 04:50 PM   #11
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A deer rifle and a 1000 yard gun, in the same stick? That's an ambitious undertaking.

1,000 yards is a long ass way to shoot. It's probably the hardest thing I have ever done. Well, outside of finally cracking the code on my "first" back in high school.

Lots of rounds will get you out there with real accuracy, 6.5 x 284mm being one of the golden children of the benchrest guys. The problem is I don't think that round as so much of a deer getter.

I like the .260 Remington for 1,000 yards, but once again, lacks the oomph.

.30-06 is a great choice for just about everything in north america and it will reach 1,000. It will take a little bit more scope and a good 20 MOA rail, but you can get it there with energy to spare. The '06 is nice because up and down the reloading range they make a bullet weight for just about anything you might want to take.

If you don't reload and if you HAVE to have one gun to handle both jobs, I think you would be hard pressed to discard the .30-06

As for a rifle, I love me the Howa action rifles.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/986733589/Guns/Rifles/Howa-Rifles/HOWA_Model_1500_RIFLE_30_06_CAL.htm

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Old 08-29-2012, 04:56 PM   #12
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The 1,000 yard shots are a goal I have. Right now I am looking for a rifle and caliber that will be great to help me on that journey starting off and also might be able to help me fill up my freezer this yr. as far as the 1,000 yard shots go its gonna take awhile to be proficient at something that advanced and as always you will need the right equipment. When that time comes I'm going tombs investing in another rifle.

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I'm looking for something in the .308 caliber.... What would be a good scope to go with this rifle?
The 308 is a great caliber,and it will shoot 1000 yards,but there are so many other calibers that will do it with better bullet trajectory.
Like J.D said,having a rifle that you use to hunt with,and shoot long range is a hard proposal depending on how you hunt.
For most long range rifles,you'll want a heavy contour barrel so you can shoot multiple shots and the barrel heating up won't affect the accuracy much.
A sporter contour barrel will be just as accurate as a heavy barrel in most cases the first shot,but after that,the heating of the barrel will affect POI when the barrel gets hot.

I have several long range rifles,all with heavy barrels.They weigh between 10-17lbs with optics.I also hunt with most of them,but I'm not tracking up and down mountains with them.I have lighter sporter weight rifles for those types of hunting.

Optics-For most hunting applications,you can use lower quality optics and they will work just fine up to 300-400 yards.
For Long range shooting,the optics needed will run at the lower end about $1000,and they go up to several thousand for the best optics.
If you can't see the target,you can't hit it!

Buy good equipment to begin with,and you'll only spend money on it once.
It also takes a lot of range time,working up precision loads for your rifle,and then a lot of practice behind the trigger to shoot as good as you and your rifle can.
You almost have to reload to shoot at longer ranges.Very few rifles will shoot their best with factory ammo,you have to find the perfect load for each barrel.
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A scope that you may want to look at is a bushel 4.5-30 the only down side is the amount of
Elevation adjustment that it has.

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If you're looking for good scopes on a tight budget definitely check out CenterPoint (Leapers). They have many models but I plan to buy the 4-14x40 mil-dot for my .308 to upgrade the optics a little.

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If you're looking for good scopes on a tight budget definitely check out CenterPoint (Leapers). They have many models but I plan to buy the 4-14x40 mil-dot for my .308 to upgrade the optics a little.
A 308 caliber rifle depending on the bullet used,and velocity of the load will need 40-45 moa of adjustment to reach 1000 yards.
Most lower end scopes only have around 40-45 moa "total adjustment-top to bottom,which after mounting it on a rifle would only give you around 15-20 moa of vertical adjustment,since the scope sets above the bore centerline.Even using a 20 moa rail,most won't have enough vertical adjustment to reach 1000 yards.
All of my long range scopes have 100 moa of adjustment,and I also run a 20moa rail so the scope reticle doesn't get close to being maxed out at long ranges.

You also need to have a high B.C. bullet,and have enough velocity that it won't go sub-sonic before reaching the target.If it does,your accuracy goes to hell.
175gr or bigger bullets will usually work well with enough velocity to stay super sonic out that far.
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A 308 caliber rifle depending on the bullet used,and velocity of the load will need 40-45 moa of adjustment to reach 1000 yards.
Most lower end scopes only have around 40-45 moa "total adjustment-top to bottom,which after mounting it on a rifle would only give you around 15-20 moa of vertical adjustment,since the scope sets above the bore centerline.Even using a 20 moa rail,most won't have enough vertical adjustment to reach 1000 yards.
All of my long range scopes have 100 moa of adjustment,and I also run a 20moa rail so the scope reticle doesn't get close to being maxed out at long ranges.

You also need to have a high B.C. bullet,and have enough velocity that it won't go sub-sonic before reaching the target.If it does,your accuracy goes to hell.
175gr or bigger bullets will usually work well with enough velocity to stay super sonic out that far.
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what a good bit of scope info. Learned something today. Thanks
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This my first year hunting and my first rifle Ruger American .308 with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40

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This my first year hunting and my first rifle Ruger American .308 with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40
I have been wanting to get my hands on one of those. How does it shoot? How does it feel?

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I have been wanting to get my hands on one of those. How does it shoot? How does it feel?

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Agreed! Do tell!!!
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