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Old 10-25-2013, 12:33 PM   #101
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So will the 6.5x55 reach out to 1000 yards or at least 800?

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Well from the ballistic information I have read on it it seems like it is capable and used in 1000 meter competitions

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Old 10-25-2013, 02:13 PM   #103
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Yes the 6.5x55 can remain supersonic (accurate) well past 800 yards, well past 1,000 yards in fact with Berger VLDs and a long barrel it can remain supersonic past 1,500 yards!! The recommended minimum energy for ethical kills on deer class game is 800ft/lbs and the Swede is capable of holding that out to 1,025yards at sea level, that is a remarkably long effective range for a low recoil rifle. That is why the 6.5x55 has survived for 122 years, in addition to that the Swede is a very very easy cartridge to reload for, stroking accuracy is very easy just ask anyone who has ever worked with them.
That said the 6.5 Creedmore can do just about anything the 6.5x55 can and it is more available in modern rifles, I cannot comment as to it's ease of accuracy but it is popular with the benchrest crowd so it is sure to please. The Creedmore was the first commercial cartridge designed specifically for 1,000yd benchrest shooting, and it seems very good in that role.

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You want to use the heaviest bullet you can keep supersonic to 1k yards if you are shooting 1k and under.

I prefer Berger 30418 185gr Match bullets for my F-class loads.

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I was doing research last night and found some 210 and 220 grain for 30-06. Anyone ever try it? Opinions?

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In general they are considered too slow for anything other then hunting in the brush at close range. They will however stabilize in a standard 1:10 twist. The heaviest I personally use in my 30-06 is my 200gr Hot Cores, that is a bulldozer of a bullet, excessive penetration for deer class game at any angle, would probably be better suited to moose.
Anything over 180gr is generally considered the realm of the 300 magnums.

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I was doing research last night and found some 210 and 220 grain for 30-06. Anyone ever try it? Opinions?
usually most of the 200 and up bullet weights for the 30-06 are for dangerous game like bear or moose. but even at that, the 300 Win. mag would be beter suited for bullets weighing that much. or even a 338-06 or a 35 Whelen if you didn't want to contend with magnum type recoil.

if i were using bullets weights past 200 gr. on a regular basis for the that type of hunting, i would probably make the step up to a 300 or 338 Win. Mag.
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In general they are considered too slow for anything other then hunting in the brush at close range. They will however stabilize in a standard 1:10 twist. The heaviest I personally use in my 30-06 is my 200gr Hot Cores, that is a bulldozer of a bullet, excessive penetration for deer class game at any angle, would probably be better suited to moose.
Anything over 180gr is generally considered the realm of the 300 magnums.
I would disagree with your statement. The .30-06 is a fine cartridge that shines w/ 180 and above bullets. That is what separates it from .308. I personally don't use a .30-06, I use an 8x57 instead. But with 196..200gr they are both awesome calibers. BTW, Moose are as easy to kill as whitetail. You don't need a heavy bullet or a magnum. If I were to own a .30-06, it would be to shoot heavier pills then my .308. A Heavier bullet is not really an advantage in brush either. If your bullet hits a branch, a few grains of mass weight won't matter. It is still going to deflect.
That is an old wives tail. Brush guns traditionally are older cartridges such as .32 Special, .35 Winchester. I use a 9.3x57. When you are hunting rugged terrain, it is great to be able to anchor your prey with a single shot at close distance. The .44-40 was the king of whitetail hunting in the U.S. until 1972 when the .30-30 took over. That 200..205gr pill is great whitetail medicine inside 100 yards. The 286gr I use in 9.3 is stellar at 100 yards, even out to 150 w/ open sights. I use my 1892 Clone in .44-40 and my 9.3x57 much more these past few years. The 6.5x55 and 8x57 still go out, but not as much.
If I want distance, My 7mmRM comes out to play. 140 or 160gr Barnes are excellent on Elk out to 500 yards+.
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I was doing research last night and found some 210 and 220 grain for 30-06. Anyone ever try it? Opinions?
Most of the 220 gr bullets for a 30/06 are round nose JSP, like you see in 30/30 bullets. They feed real well in semi auto rifles. If you hit a sapling or a limb they don't ricochet like like a 150 gr boat tail. The only thing that busts brush better than a 220 gr 30/06 is a 12 ga slug. I am speaking in broad brush terms here.

The 30/06 has been so popular for the last 100 years because there isn't much you can't do with it. Teddy Roosevelt took virtually every big game animal in north america with a 30/06.

When I was a kid I read everything Jack O'connor wrote. I read about teddy roosevelt's expeditions. I read a lot of hunting/shooting books. Outdoor life had a book club. You paid so much a year to get a book every month. If you didn't like the book you got, you just sent it back. OL would mail another book. I didn't get many books I didn't like.
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With bonded or mono metal bullets there is no need for anything over 200gr in an 06 it runs out of wounding width before it runs out of penetration. Saw a 30-06 180gr TSX tested recently it penetrated 42" of 10% BG, going much deeper then that would not benefit you on almost any North American game and going heavier/slower would reduce the remote damage. So unless you are going after a record brown bear with your 06 (NOT recommended!) you don't gain anything by using 250gr. If you are hunting anything that a 200gr 30-06 can't cleanly take I would advise you to get a larger caliber rather then trying to pack more lead into the 06, just my take on it.
Don't get me wrong I am not saying the a 220gr RN 06 is a bad mix, but with modern tough bullets there is no need for them.

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