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KRAGGY69 03-30-2010 08:58 PM

Lee enfield no.4 mki
 
:D YEA my gun showed up today and i could use some help with the stampings from the experts..........(cricketts chirping) thats you guys.pics are provided below only thing i know its definitly .303 and somebody mentioned that the rear sight tells it was us made whatever that means
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/f2punk/IMG00093-20100330-1615.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/f2punk/IMG00074-20100330-1605.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/f2punk/IMG00076-20100330-1606.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/f2punk/IMG00075-20100330-1606.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/f2punk/IMG00082-20100330-1610.jpg

KRAGGY69 03-30-2010 09:13 PM

Okay now that it was seen in one piece im tearing it down and cleaning it

KRAGGY69 04-02-2010 05:54 PM

OK I GUESS nobody knows these markings :confused: but on a good note when i tore it down it was filthy especialy the trigger group but hardly any wear marks on the rifle except normal wear on bolt shot awesome at the range yesterday 2 inch groups at 50yds open sights winchester box ammo.i had these same style of peep sights on my australian arms and they are quick to aquire but can still move my head all over the place and still see the front post through the hole which if i was right handed would work better but being a lefty i have to reaquire my cheek weld after every shot which im sure is why the large group size at 50yds

Oohrah 04-02-2010 09:18 PM

The British have all kinds of proof marks and stamping, and some are placed on the metal during any kind of an arsenal change. Yep, those 4s will shoot.
I have one in a T, their sniper version with scope. Really heavy when loaded and good to go. A strange thing is those up to 200 yard groups of 1.5 to 2 MOA, seem to tighten beyond 200 yards. Common sense should indicate just the oposite with groups to open the farther the distance from the muzzle. Just the opposite. The scopeis very heavy to our standards, and I would guess maybe 2.5 power. I think many of my markings come from when it was sent in to be made into a T model by adding a wood stock comb, and the very sturdy side mount for attachment of the scope. It seems like the metal may be a little better finished than some I've seen, but not much shows except for the muzzle, and action. Very bright like new bore, and it is a very tight 311 or 312. I have fired up some plinkers using 308 bullets, and they were surprisingly pretty accurate, as was some gas checked 180 gr. 309 bullets. It does favor the heavier bullets, and I keep pressures moderate to
ensure case separations that occurs after a half a dozen reloads. Usually start looking after the third reload, and discard any that start to show at the weak part of the case up from the rim.

c3shooter 04-02-2010 10:59 PM

Patience, my son- was doing other things.

Your markings- BNP- Birmingham Nitro Proof- standard proof mark for smokeless powder. 1942- year born. D 6973- serial number. Your bolt matches the rifle, which is good. FTR- Factory Thorough Repair- been thru a depot level rebuild.

Couple of places to look for marks- the LEFT side of the receiver, and the metal band at the wrist. You may also see the "broad arrow" mark- looks like a V with a stick in the opening. Very old mark, indicates property of the crown. The British equivalent of the US flaming bomb mark. Your may also see letters GR. Stands for George Rex. George VI was King of Great Britain in 1942- arms are marked to show they are property of the King (older rifles might have VR- Victoria Regina (Queen Victoria) current rifles ER- Elizabth Regina, etc.

If your was imported into the US in recent history, somewhere, in very small letters, is the name and city state of importer, and caliber- required by Fed law. May be something like "CAI St Albans VT 303 Enf". That would be Century Arms.

KRAGGY69 04-03-2010 09:06 PM

THANK U c3 that is why i am puzzled about the stampings there are only a total of 2 in that area the one pictured which is bnp with the crown thats one the other is perfectly in the center on the top really small b34 inside a small circle thats it, i thought it was odd.the only history that followed it was from a 64 year old said his dad brought it home from the war and his father has passed so that is where the story ends.no mods have been done that i can tell when i completly tore it down,one thing i do know is i appreciate the hinged bands on my aia,and he rubbed the stock what must have been for ever with some oil or polish on the wood smooth as a babies butt

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb63/f2punk/rangeday.jpg

KRAGGY69 04-03-2010 09:11 PM

shoots good enough ,140 well spent,now that i know its safe and functional i will try some longer ranges have to save up for ammo little more expensive than 7.62 x 39.

c3shooter 04-04-2010 04:51 AM

Yeah- I lucked out when there was a small mountain of milsurp .303 around- got a lifetime supply of the Greek on stripper clips- cheep. Which is good, since I just picked up another No.4Mk1* this past week. Wood is good, metal excellent, wearing a #2 bolt head. Long Branch mfg, 1942. Think this one is going to get a military scope mount.

KRAGGY69 04-04-2010 03:47 PM

SWEET PoST pictures of how you did that, mount and all please as i am thinking of doin the same just dont want to drill and tap:)

c3shooter 04-04-2010 07:00 PM

STEP AWAY FROM THE DRILL- and nobody gets hurt!

There are no-gunsmithing mounts for several milsurp rifles. Here is one for the No4. Collecting and Shooting the Surplus Rifle - Cad Technik Enfield No-Gunsmith Scope Mount


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