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Old 02-28-2011, 04:57 AM   #11
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Great looking gun! When I graduate, and if I get a signing bonus, this'll be top 10 things to spend it on. Absolutely awesome looking gun, and I'm sure it shoots as well as it looks.

However, a few guys and I were discussing the merits and drawbacks of a large, precision bullpup and a few questions came up and was hoping you could clear them up. First of all, how is the quality of the trigger? My friend's main concern with bullpups is the lack of a quality trigger feel due to extending the trigger mechanism so far backwards. Secondly, what is the critical length of a barrel on 50BMG? That is to say, at what point does extra barrel become a detriment instead of a benefit to shooting?

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So Black Talon what is the price on this little beauty? I love the look of that little girl.

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It’s $2,000 less than the competition; I think that’s low enough considering what it is.
My comment was reserved for the members that started the thread off in a negative light. I was referring to the level of their posts, not the price of the weapon itself.
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Great looking gun! When I graduate, and if I get a signing bonus, this'll be top 10 things to spend it on.
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However, a few guys and I were discussing the merits and drawbacks of a large, precision bullpup and a few questions came up and was hoping you could clear them up. First of all, how is the quality of the trigger?
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My friend's main concern with bullpups is the lack of a quality trigger feel due to extending the trigger mechanism so far backwards.
The Leader has a single-stage trigger that engages a linear hammer system; it does not have the linkage problem that some bullpups do.

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Secondly, what is the critical length of a barrel on 50BMG? That is to say, at what point does extra barrel become a detriment instead of a benefit to shooting?
The Leader 50 will be available with a 24- and 28-inch barrel. Most .50 BMG rifles do not have a barrel length in excess of 29.

According to Hatcher’s Notebook (p. 399), the difference in muzzle velocity between a 30- and 32-inch barrel on an M2 Browning machine gun is a mere 28.1 feet per second.

Based on this, I would say that a length of >32 inches is unnecessary.

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So Black Talon what is the price on this little beauty? I love the look of that little girl.
MSRP is $6,800.

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Ah, my mistake.
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Welcome Black Talon!! Can't wait for a vid of this being taken for a run at the range!

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Glad to have you here. I look forward to seeing this thread unfold. It looks like one hell of a design.

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OK, i'm nothing near a rifle expert (barely rifle literate), so i am wondering about the advantage of a bullpup design with a round that seems most advantageous at longer distances. IOW, why a bullpup design? Is it designed for closer engagements with armored targets or what?


Dumb it down for me a bit, please. (I'm not being sarcastic; i'm just a lil ignorant in this area)

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Welcome, BT! I'll have to forget replacing my truck and save for this instead.
I know some of the members in the high stress retail security operator biz will want this to guard the food court near them as well!

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OK, i'm nothing near a rifle expert (barely rifle literate), so i am wondering about the advantage of a bullpup design with a round that seems most advantageous at longer distances. IOW, why a bullpup design? Is it designed for closer engagements with armored targets or what?


Dumb it down for me a bit, please. (I'm not being sarcastic; i'm just a lil ignorant in this area)
It makes the 50 BMG a one man rifle.
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Welcome Black Talon, would love to see a video of this in action. A 50 cal. bullpup design is very interesting indeed.

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