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02-26-2011, 11:02 PM | #1 | Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 65 | Leader 50 BMG
The Leader 50 BMG semi-automatic rifle — as seen at the 2011 SHOT Show — will be manufactured by MICOR Industries, Inc. of Decatur, Alabama. Its fate is unaffected by the collapse of Sabre Defence Industries.
Defense Review article on the Leader 50 BMG.
We also expect next month’s issue of Shooting Illustrated to contain a write-up.
I’m the son of the designer, Charles St. George, whose other small arms include the Leader T2 MK5 and Bushmaster M17S — the first rifles to use a triangular bolt and aluminum extruded receiver, respectively.
I was at the unveiling of the Leader 50 at the Sabre Defence booth in January, where I met Dillinger and Dzscubie.
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02-26-2011, 11:41 PM | #2 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
Gentlemen! Kindly take it down a thousand!
First off, Black Talon is a personal friend of mine that I invited here from another forum.
Second, as Scubie will attest, BT's old man designed this monster as well as several weapons previously that some of you even own.
This thing is the REAL Effing Deal! The bolt assembly/ carrier group is built like a god damn tank! It's impressive.
Now, while Black Talon may be new to you all, I would appreciate you extending him some FTF courtesy as I can assure you, he is one of the good guys and has probably already forgotten more about small weapons design than most of us will never know.
B.T. - thank you for the write up and PLEASE keep us informed of your progress to market!
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Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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02-26-2011, 11:46 PM | #3 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 |
That's a wicked looking rifle. I would have never conceived of a 50 in a bullpup design. __________________ Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where those least capable of leadership are elected by those least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to succeed or provide for themselves are rewarded with goods and services paid for by wealth confiscated from a diminishing number of people who actually work and produce.
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02-27-2011, 12:55 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Stafford, Virginia, The state of insanity. Posts: 14,049 |
Sorry for the ruddness before.
Can I ask that advantages of a triangular bolt? I have never heard of that before |
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02-27-2011, 01:23 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 364 |
WOW! ill brb i gotta go get my wife to get rid of my wood! lol seriously that thing is SEXY! if i only had 7000 layin around to pick one up! __________________ "Which is heavier a soldiers pack or a slaves chains" Napoleon
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02-27-2011, 01:28 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Do you see what happens, Larry?! Posts: 3,321 |
Less recoil than a 30-06, incredible! I would like to see it in action on the range. __________________ AMAT VICTORIA CURAM
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02-27-2011, 01:37 AM | #7 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
I'll wait for Scubie to weigh in on the actual "hands on" feel of the weapon. I can say this though. Mr. St. George and his son were both EXCELLENT hosts and VERY knowledgable about the product in question AND the market it is up against.
Make no mistake guys, this thing is the real deal in .50 cal sniper weapons f it can perform as advertised. 17 or so pounds!?!? Ridiculous!
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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02-27-2011, 01:46 AM | #8 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 8,304 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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from that pick it doesnt look like the bolt has enough room to strip a round. be interesting to see how it works. __________________ "Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith
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02-27-2011, 03:15 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 9,640 |
Welcome, Black Talon, thanks for coming aboard!
Looking forward to more updates.
Will this handle Mil-Surp specialty ammo? |
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02-27-2011, 05:30 AM | #10 | Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 65 | 
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Gentlemen! Kindly take it down a thousand! 
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It’s $2,000 less than the competition; I think that’s low enough considering what it is.
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Now, while Black Talon may be new to you all, I would appreciate you extending him some FTF courtesy as I can assure you, he is one of the good guys
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Thank you.
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B.T. - thank you for the write up and PLEASE keep us informed of your progress to market!
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That’s what this thread is for.
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Sorry for the ruddness before.
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I’m afraid I don’t know what you mean.
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Can I ask that advantages of a triangular bolt? I have never heard of that before
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Less expensive to manufacture since all you have to do is machine three flats instead of broaching it.
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Less recoil than a 30-06, incredible! I would like to see it in action on the range.
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You will soon.
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Welcome, Black Talon, thanks for coming aboard!
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My pleasure.
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Will this handle Mil-Surp specialty ammo?
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We’ve only tested it with M33 so far. Last edited by Black Talon; 02-27-2011 at 05:49 AM. |
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