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Old 03-30-2012, 08:38 AM   #11
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I think the ar is a better weapon and all around more fun but if i was u i would ge the ak first because the likely hood of an ak being banned is much higher than an ar and if it is banned the prices skyrocket on them

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Old 03-30-2012, 09:26 AM   #12
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+1 on the AR platform. I haven't had any issues with reliability on the two that I've built. Keep it clean and it'll run forever. Oh and the AR is sooooo much better looking IMO. :-)

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Old 03-30-2012, 03:30 PM   #13
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The AR is, well, yeah.

I wouldn't want to trust the stamped receiver

of the AK, as well as the aerosol accuracy.

The SKS has a much better build, with a machined

receiver, and a longer sight radius. So I guess the

short answer to: " AR or AK?" for me is

"none of the above".

IME the (my) AK has had a couple dependability

issues bearing directly on it's cheap build. My SKS

has always been reliable, with a built-in bayonet

as a backup, if needed.

It's a free country, though, and YMMV...

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Old 03-30-2012, 04:31 PM   #14
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in a shtf time i dont see haven a tun of time to clean my gun and the ar needs to be clean more then the ak

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:37 PM   #15
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SHTF scenarios are what soldiers face every day.

They're what the AR was designed for, and it's served our soldiers very, very well for over 45 years.

If you can't find time to maintain your weapon, you've got bigger problems than weapon selection.

Your DI told you:

"Take care of your weapon and your weapon will take care of you."


And it's still true today.

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SHTF scenarios are what soldiers face every day.

They're what the AR was designed for, and it's served our soldiers very, very well for over 45 years.
Our soldiers in the field bring overwhelming force and have a HUGE support network. Their weapons are full auto. And if their gun fails they are surrounded by friends to cover them. In a bad spot they can pick a working weapon off the fallen soldier next to them.

For SHTF you are going to be alone or in a small group. Your weapon will be semi-auto, and if you have anyone with you they may very well be carrying a weapons in a different caliber. And you will have no support network beyond the kit you bring with you.

My point is, what is good for our troops is not necessarily good for a citizen rifleman in a SHTF situation. But the whole SHTF thing is such a broad scenario that you could make a good case for just about any weapon.
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Our soldiers in the field bring overwhelming force and have a HUGE support network. Their weapons are full auto. And if their gun fails they are surrounded by friends to cover them. In a bad spot they can pick a working weapon off the fallen soldier next to them.

For SHTF you are going to be alone or in a small group. Your weapon will be semi-auto, and if you have anyone with you they may very well be carrying a weapons in a different caliber. And you will have no support network beyond the kit you bring with you.

My point is, what is good for our troops is not necessarily good for a citizen rifleman in a SHTF situation. But the whole SHTF thing is such a broad scenario that you could make a good case for just about any weapon.
Pretty sure that, in the scenario you reference, AR rifles in .223 will be EVERYWHERE.
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The AR is, well, yeah.

I wouldn't want to trust the stamped receiver

of the AK, as well as the aerosol accuracy.

The SKS has a much better build, with a machined

receiver, and a longer sight radius. So I guess the

short answer to: " AR or AK?" for me is

"none of the above".

IME the (my) AK has had a couple dependability

issues bearing directly on it's cheap build. My SKS

has always been reliable, with a built-in bayonet

as a backup, if needed.

It's a free country, though, and YMMV...
Of the two, i would also want the SKS. Of course, my SKS has removable magazines of which i have a few. If it had to be AK or AR, i would go AK. I don't have the skills to take advantage of the long-range accuracy of the AR (nor a fondness for tiny projectiles). If i had been trained by the US military in the use of the AR, i would probably pick it for the supposed increase in accuracy.
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AR is out because there are just too many options (uppers of numerous calibers not to mention the crossbow one) to choose from but then again the AK has quite a few calibers to choose from too.....
I think I'll just get me a slingshot with some steel ball bearings and decent arrows and put the savings towards some "medicinal" alcohol.

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I can walk down a trail in the woods with an SKS, field-stripping and

cleaning as I go. It's got four easily removable and cleanable parts, and a

built-in cleaning kit.

Now try that with an AR...

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