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Old 09-29-2013, 07:16 PM   #151
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I would have to take something in the .223 catagorie because I could carry more bullets with me so a Mossberg MVP in bull barrel would be my choice. A 30-06 rifle would beat the heck out of me shooting it repeadily at someone. A lever action would get your rounds off faster to keep them from over running your position. A shotgum would be great in the jungles. But since the .223 magazines wouldn't. be around if banned. I'm sticking to the lever action 336. I can shoot the gun and keep it aiming in the same direction to recocking the gun. Seems like the lever actions move less when cocking the gun after a shot and alot quicker to get back on sight.
Crazycastor, just for fun, don't get mad, but you can carry at lot more ammo if you carried a BB gun, if carrying the most ammo you can is your thing. But your arm would probably get sore pumping it up.
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You cant shoot through kevlar with some damn bbs you crazy man haha i would hope my oppenent was using bb guns haha

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You cant shoot through kevlar with some damn bbs you crazy man haha i would hope my oppenent was using bb guns haha
nope, but most modern rifle ammo has no problems with Kevlar.
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nope, but most modern rifle ammo has no problems with Kevlar.
Yep. The only rifle ammo that has an issue with soft armor is .22LR. Anything .223 or larger, be it a modern or oldfashioned will zip right through Kevlar if its not even there!
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Yep. The only rifle ammo that has an issue with soft armor is .22LR. Anything .223 or larger, be it a modern or oldfashioned will zip right through Kevlar if its not even there!
will the steel or ceramic trauma plates stop rifle rounds?
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will the steel or ceramic trauma plates stop rifle rounds?
That depends on the plate and the round.
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That depends on the plate and the round.
5.56mm, 308, 338 LM...?
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5.56mm, 308, 338 LM...?
AMI: 7.5 lbs--3 mm steel over compressed Dyneema
DBT: 6 lbs--8 mm aluminum oxide backed by resin reinforced Kevlar
DT: 4.5 lb--Dyneema composite
MSA: 6 lbs--Aluminum oxide backed by compressed Dyneema, Gold Flex, and closed cel foam
TenH: 4.25 lbs--Aluminum oxide backed by compressed Dyneema and closed cel foam
TenD: 3.25 lbs--Compressed Dyneema

Will all stop those rounds at most velocities.

These are all level III trauma plates.

1/4" AR500 steel could be cut to fit in a trauma plate pocket in a IIIA vest and would also stop those rounds at most velocities.

Most IIIA to lighter kevlar vests have thin soft shock plates now that won't stop anything and only serve to help the body absorb the shock

3/4" AR500 steel will stop .50 BMG ball rounds at longer distances. But you'd be jelly and its pretty heavy.
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AMI: 7.5 lbs--3 mm steel over compressed Dyneema
DBT: 6 lbs--8 mm aluminum oxide backed by resin reinforced Kevlar
DT: 4.5 lb--Dyneema composite
MSA: 6 lbs--Aluminum oxide backed by compressed Dyneema, Gold Flex, and closed cel foam
TenH: 4.25 lbs--Aluminum oxide backed by compressed Dyneema and closed cel foam
TenD: 3.25 lbs--Compressed Dyneema

Will all stop those rounds at most velocities.

These are all level III trauma plates.

1/4" AR500 steel could be cut to fit in a trauma plate pocket in a IIIA vest and would also stop those rounds at most velocities.

Most IIIA to lighter kevlar vests have thin soft shock plates now that won't stop anything and only serve to help the body absorb the shock

3/4" AR500 steel will stop .50 BMG ball rounds at longer distances. But you'd be jelly and its pretty heavy.
how much weight does the average trauma plate add to the vest?
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