ID this rifle if you can
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > General Rifle Discussion > ID this rifle if you can

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-11-2013, 08:21 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,036
Liked 100 Times on 83 Posts
Likes Given: 42

Default ID this rifle if you can

This rifle comes from a collection of a friend of mines grandfather. He passed away leaving my buddies dad a quite hefty collection of shotguns, with a few odd balls. This one, we are to assume, was a project of the old man. The stock has been "painted" in a bronze wood type color. The barrel appears to be the original finish. There are several marks on the barrel, nothing I found to aid me in what it is. But given the odd trigger guard, and the fact it has 2 triggers and one barrel, I figure maybe someone has seen such before. Here's a few shots I have. I have no others available at this time.






Anyone have any ideas? I don't even know what caliber it is, though from the size it appears to have some beef to it.

__________________

A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future.
- General George Patton Jr

GeneralPatton is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 02-11-2013, 08:36 PM   #2
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
gr8oldguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 833
Liked 451 Times on 273 Posts
Likes Given: 153

Default

It's a WWI Mauser...see this link: http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=5489898

__________________

You don't have to remember the truth
NRA Member

gr8oldguy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:15 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,036
Liked 100 Times on 83 Posts
Likes Given: 42

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr8oldguy View Post
except the Mauser had a round barrel and one trigger. Though I see the maker name can be the same.
__________________

A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future.
- General George Patton Jr

GeneralPatton is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:24 PM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kytowboater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,992
Liked 2378 Times on 1484 Posts
Likes Given: 51

Default

Two triggers could be one is a "set" trigger.

__________________

Oh dern....


Revelation 19:11

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

kytowboater is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:34 PM   #5
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
TLuker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: S.C.
Posts: 2,571
Liked 1181 Times on 758 Posts
Likes Given: 2302

Default

My guess would be a WWI Mauser that was sporterized after the War by a custom gun maker. Double triggers would have been added along with what I assume are quick detach mounts for a scope. There should be a really nice set of custom rings somewhere to go with those mounts?

Very nice rifle!

__________________
TLuker is online now  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:36 PM   #6
JTJ
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lake Havasu,Arizona
Posts: 5,940
Liked 1851 Times on 1002 Posts
Likes Given: 565

Default

Mannlicher action custom builder. Double set triggers. Pull the back one to set and the front trigger fires. Turns it into a hair trigger. Normal trigger if you dont set it. Mounts on the receiver are for a claw type scope rings. Caliber would be guesswork. Slug the bore or have a chamber cast done. The forward bolt handle and open rear receiver is typical of Mannlicher.

__________________

Patron Member NRA
"I would not be an old man if I had not been an armed young man." JTJ
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of feces by the clean end."

JTJ is offline  
c3shooter Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 10:46 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
hiwall's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cleator,AZ
Posts: 3,285
Liked 710 Times on 458 Posts
Likes Given: 227

Default

It is a custom rifle. So no one is going to say "Oh, thats a model 78, I had one just like it." Custom means custom. I'm sure the builder bought the action and made the rest. Too bad he put those ugly mounts on there. Yes, I know those mounts are fairly common over there. Get a chamber cast and go out to the range with that thing!

__________________

Just walking on the edge of of my grave.

hiwall is offline  
c3shooter Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 11:11 PM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jpattersonnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South central,NH
Posts: 4,969
Liked 700 Times on 480 Posts
Likes Given: 719

Default

After WWI germans still made great rifles, but not in 8x57. Suhl is a great rifle, it is a a Mauser action that has been heavily modified. The offset claw mount is very interesting, I've never seen one. 2,75 usually is the cartridge or case length, most were 11mm rifles. 1st could be 11mm Belgian Comblain The other choices are limitless. .45-70 is an 11mm.

__________________

Freedom is not free. The best of us always leave too soon.

jpattersonnh is offline  
c3shooter Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 11:40 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jpattersonnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South central,NH
Posts: 4,969
Liked 700 Times on 480 Posts
Likes Given: 719

Default

Dug up more info. In Suhl Many Commision 88 rifles (guild) were built for sporting purposes. You do have a '88 style rifle. The average manufacture date is 1896. It should have the date stamped on it.

__________________

Freedom is not free. The best of us always leave too soon.

jpattersonnh is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 11:44 PM   #10
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BillM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Amity
Posts: 1,003
Liked 204 Times on 111 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

It's a custom gun.

Built by CG Haenel They have been building guns since 1840.

Suhl Germany is the city where CG Haenel is located

The rifle is based on a Mauser 1888 Commission rifle, with LOTS
of custom additions and refinements.

Good luck finding the scope mount that fits it---they were pretty
much custom built to the gun.

Caliber---no guess. Have a chamber cast done and start measuring.

I'll bet that under that copper paint there is a REALLY nice piece
of wood.

__________________
BillM is offline  
c3shooter Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Best rifle for service rifle competition Sibil General Rifle Discussion 8 01-03-2013 07:07 PM
Best rifle for service rifle competition Sibil AR-15 Discussion 1 01-03-2013 04:47 PM
15 inch barrel, with rifle gas! almost rifle velocity, and i runs great Middleofthemiddle AR-15 Discussion 11 07-31-2012 11:55 PM
How to convert a rifle into a short barreled rifle legally Awesome NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion 26 06-28-2012 07:00 PM
VZ58 rifle vs. SKS rifle differences? orangello AK & SKS Discussion 4 07-12-2011 02:58 AM