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GeneralPatton 02-11-2013 09:21 PM

ID this rifle if you can
 
This rifle comes from a collection of a friend of mines grandfather. He passed away leaving my buddies dad a quite hefty collection of shotguns, with a few odd balls. This one, we are to assume, was a project of the old man. The stock has been "painted" in a bronze wood type color. The barrel appears to be the original finish. There are several marks on the barrel, nothing I found to aid me in what it is. But given the odd trigger guard, and the fact it has 2 triggers and one barrel, I figure maybe someone has seen such before. Here's a few shots I have. I have no others available at this time.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...pscd1a9ae7.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps4f6c192e.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps8926afcc.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psebe187db.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps8d596dad.jpg

Anyone have any ideas? I don't even know what caliber it is, though from the size it appears to have some beef to it. :confused:

gr8oldguy 02-11-2013 09:36 PM

It's a WWI Mauser...see this link: http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=5489898

GeneralPatton 02-11-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8oldguy (Post 1133683)

except the Mauser had a round barrel and one trigger. Though I see the maker name can be the same.

kytowboater 02-11-2013 11:24 PM

Two triggers could be one is a "set" trigger.

TLuker 02-11-2013 11:34 PM

My guess would be a WWI Mauser that was sporterized after the War by a custom gun maker. Double triggers would have been added along with what I assume are quick detach mounts for a scope. There should be a really nice set of custom rings somewhere to go with those mounts?

Very nice rifle! :)

JTJ 02-11-2013 11:36 PM

Mannlicher action custom builder. Double set triggers. Pull the back one to set and the front trigger fires. Turns it into a hair trigger. Normal trigger if you dont set it. Mounts on the receiver are for a claw type scope rings. Caliber would be guesswork. Slug the bore or have a chamber cast done. The forward bolt handle and open rear receiver is typical of Mannlicher.

hiwall 02-11-2013 11:46 PM

It is a custom rifle. So no one is going to say "Oh, thats a model 78, I had one just like it." Custom means custom. I'm sure the builder bought the action and made the rest. Too bad he put those ugly mounts on there. Yes, I know those mounts are fairly common over there. Get a chamber cast and go out to the range with that thing!

jpattersonnh 02-12-2013 12:11 AM

After WWI germans still made great rifles, but not in 8x57. Suhl is a great rifle, it is a a Mauser action that has been heavily modified. The offset claw mount is very interesting, I've never seen one. 2,75 usually is the cartridge or case length, most were 11mm rifles. 1st could be 11mm Belgian Comblain The other choices are limitless. .45-70 is an 11mm.

jpattersonnh 02-12-2013 12:40 AM

Dug up more info. In Suhl Many Commision 88 rifles (guild) were built for sporting purposes. You do have a '88 style rifle. The average manufacture date is 1896. It should have the date stamped on it.

BillM 02-12-2013 12:44 AM

It's a custom gun.

Built by CG Haenel They have been building guns since 1840.

Suhl Germany is the city where CG Haenel is located

The rifle is based on a Mauser 1888 Commission rifle, with LOTS
of custom additions and refinements.

Good luck finding the scope mount that fits it---they were pretty
much custom built to the gun.

Caliber---no guess. Have a chamber cast done and start measuring.

I'll bet that under that copper paint there is a REALLY nice piece
of wood.:)


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