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Old 09-07-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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I don't know a thing about them and never shoot one. All I know is its one more way to hunt

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Old 09-07-2013, 09:38 PM   #2
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Well, you sort of have 3 roads to pick from.

Road 1 is the modern, in line muzzle loader. Probably uses a 209 shotshell primer, using saboted jacketed pistol bullets and Pyrodex pellets. Accurate, reliable. And a Big Mac is good food. Synthetic stock, stainless steel

Second path is a modern version of a traditional caplock, like a Hawken. May have coil springs rather than leaf springs, but looks a lot like the rifle that an explorer would have bought in St. Louis on his way West. Sidehammer, #11 percussion cap, probably shoots a maxi ball and Triple 7 powder, many have double set triggers. Walnut, blued steel, pretty guns, as accurate as you are.

3rd way is the Uber Traditional. Daniel Boone would feel right at home with your Pennsylvania long rifle. Flintlock. LONG barrel. Walnut, brass furniture, browned steel. Shoots a patched round ball with Goex ffG black powder. You probably slaughtered the steer and rendered the tallow to lube your bullets.

And you know what? All 3 are fun. Pays your money, takes your pick.

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Here are two of mine

This one is a .45 cal Pennsylvania style rifle- caplock, long barrel, does best with patched ball.
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This one is a .50 cal Thompson Center, similar to a Hawken. Set triggers, shoots maxi balls very well. Shorter barrel.
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Many years ago I had a .58 black powder rifle. It was an 1863 Zouave and a hoot to shoot. At a hundred yards, I could actually see the bullet going down range. All that being said, they are still firearms and just as dangerous as anything you might be shooting right now. I have gotten back into bp shooting, as I have just purchased an 1858 Reminington Army revolver in .44. Can't wait to get this bad boy to the range. good luck

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Main thing to keep in mind before buying black powder guns is......
You Absolutely must be meticulous about cleaning. If you're not willing to take the time to properly clean the gun after every time you shoot it, don't bother buying one.

Next thing, don't buy an off caliber gun. Also sure you can get a ball mould or bare minimum get your hands on round ball for it. If you're not willing to mould you're own ball, you're not a black powder shooter.

Third thing to remember is.....
Powder, patch, ball. Why is this third?
Because I enjoy laughing at people that dry ball.

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You spelled butt wrong.
I know, I know. I'm drunk.

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The modern in lines are much closer to modern rifles. I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from going the traditional route, and it is fun, but if you just want more time hunting get an in line modern muzzle loader. Go with any of the reputable brands and I would suggest a .50 cal. You can then get .45 cal saboted hollow points to shoot in it and they will get the job done! For powder you can get Pyrodex pellets and just drop 2 or 3 down the barrel. The number of pellets will be determined by your muzzle loader. I have an older Knight that uses 2 but I think most of the new ones use three? After you drop in the pellets just push the bullet in and put the primer on.

The new ones with scopes can shoot good groups at 100 yards + but keep in mind this is a primitive weapon so don't get hung up trying to shoot 1" groups. Get close and make the shot count.

And like mountainman 13 said you have to clean it thoroughly each and every time you shoot it. I take mine apart and scrub it in the bath tub submerged in hot water. That's how thorough you need to be.

They are more trouble but they will put meat in the freezer. I like to hunt normally crowded spots with muzzle loader because I can get in before the crowds and then fall back on my good spots during rifle season.

Here is a decent doe I got last Oct. with my old Knight:
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And as was indicated- there are 3 kinds of muzzle loading shooters-
1. Those that HAVE failed to load powder before ball
2. Those that WILL fail to load powder first
3. Those that lie about it

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Stay away from flint locks if you planing on hunting with it. Flint Isn't very reliable and you will also need real black power to at the least prim the pan with. Modern black power aka safer power is harder to set off. Good it you don't want the gun to go off shoal your loading it. Bad when you try to shoot it.
So let's cap. Flint lock. Finicky fireing and hard to find power. Percusion cap reliability and easy to find loading supply
however flint locks are still fun to shoot

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And as was indicated- there are 3 kinds of muzzle loading shooters-
1. Those that HAVE failed to load powder before ball
2. Those that WILL fail to load powder first
3. Those that lie about it
That is the truth. It's not that I've never dry balled, just that I've never been caught. Lmfao
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