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A-Feher 11-10-2012 05:31 AM

I have a very old looking rifle that I can't identify online. I would be interested to know what it is, so that I could possibly replace the missing fore-grip. I would greatly appreciate it! Click to see Pictures

gunnut07 11-10-2012 10:20 AM

I man meffert pinfire in I'm assuming made around 1890. How many barrels are on it?

WebleyFosbery38 11-10-2012 10:53 AM

Thats sweet, looks like an old side by side Shotgun, love the duel triggers, British of some sort I would guess by the Crown. The engraving is nice also. Definitely a Gentleman's gun, not a beater. I would not try to fire it without a complete check out of a Gunsmith and the correct loads if it checks out. Shes a real beauty, a keeper for sure!

c3shooter 11-10-2012 11:58 AM

OK- your pictures are not the best (need overall pic, good lighting, LOTS of pixels so can enlarge)

Imman(ual) Meffert is listed in Journal-Verlag Schwend Hall GmbvH Schwabisch Hall 1979, volume 2. Was able to find listings for Immanual Meffert active in Suhl in 1846 and between 1870 and 1882. In other words, you have a very old gun made in Suhl, Germany WAY WAY over 100 years ago. This is a black powder gun, and probably should not be fired with ANYTHING. Short of finding a sister gun, you will not "find" parts for this one- these were guild made (hand made) guns.

If you want to see more of his guns, you can buy a copy of the catalogue of Meffert guns from the German Gun Collectors Association.

http://germanguns.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=25&ze nid=aae76d958d793a3cf5bab0674301aa12

A-Feher 11-11-2012 04:24 AM

thank you guys

A-Feher 11-11-2012 04:26 AM

one barrel. its octagonal. its a double trigger system rifle. the barrel release is underneath the trigger guard

A-Feher 11-11-2012 04:28 AM

I know its not black power, it has break action. I can see the firing pin. it has a cartridge but im not sure what caliber

cbibb 11-11-2012 01:57 PM

This is a real interesting gun please keep us posted maybe its a form of a Shuts-zen rifle excuse my spelling

c3shooter 11-11-2012 03:04 PM

Sir- trust me on this. Your gun IS a black powder firearm. Did not say it was a muzzle loader, using loose powder.

Prior to about 1884, ALL gunpowder, whether in cartridges or not, was black powder. That was the year that Poudre B was created- one of the first smokeless powders. It was not until several years after that that all guns were made for smokeless.

Black powder is a deflagrating (burning) product, smokeless is based on nitroglycerine and nitrocelluslose. Black has an entirely different pressure curve than smokeless.


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