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Old 05-06-2012, 11:10 PM   #41
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Not sure I've ever heard the 7mm Remington Mag being a barrel burner. The .264 mag had that distinction. The Model 70 is a fine rifle, but still only a copy of the Mauser. The short mag is pretty much useless unless you can't cycle a long action because of mental defect. Guess it is easy to spot a range Ninja.

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Not sure I've ever heard the 7mm Remington Mag being a barrel burner. The .264 mag had that distinction. The Model 70 is a fine rifle, but still only a copy of the Mauser. The short mag is pretty much useless unless you can't cycle a long action because of mental defect. Guess it is easy to spot a range Ninja.

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So i am a range ninja because i own a short mag?
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So i am a range ninja because i own a short mag?
Not intended for you. It is the false info about the 7mm Rem mag. I still don't like a short mag.
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I think I am going to save up for the Savage 111 TH XP in .270 it comes with a Nikon 3-9x40 scope.
Good choice. I favor the '06 but that's personal preference. You'll enjoy it, I'm sure.
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Not intended for you. It is the false info about the 7mm Rem mag. I still don't like a short mag.
Ya, ive been feeling that i may need to get rid of it and get a M70 with a more available round. I fell for the "new and better" 7mm cartridge when they first came out. I do love the rifle, but there no ballistic advantages over the 7mm mag. If the ammo stayed readily available like it was 5 years ago then i wouldnt have any concerns.
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Mu biggest heartburn with with the belted magnums is not the guns themselves, but the "wannabe" snipers that try to shoot animals 500 yards away, and wound them.

Over the years, I've lost too many hunting days in the mountains tracking wounded animals that some guy shot at ridiculous range because the guy in the gun store told him that his Remchester Belchfire magnum would hit anything he could see.

In the hands of a skilled hunter, magnums are fine, although, IMHO not needed.

Mst of the skilled hunters that I know use a .270, .30-06 or .308.

And the trajectory of a .308 is perfectly adequate for a skilled hunter.

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Ya, ive been feeling that i may need to get rid of it and get a M70 with a more available round. I fell for the "new and better" 7mm cartridge when they first came out. I do love the rifle, but there no ballistic advantages over the 7mm mag. If the ammo stayed readily available like it was 5 years ago then i wouldnt have any concerns.
You make allot of sense. What about having it re-barreled?
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Mu biggest heartburn with with the belted magnums is not the guns themselves, but the "wannabe" snipers that try to shoot animals 500 yards away, and wound them.

Over the years, I've lost too many hunting days in the mountains tracking wounded animals that some guy shot at ridiculous range because the guy in the gun store told him that his Remchester Belchfire magnum would hit anything he could see.

In the hands of a skilled hunter, magnums are fine, although, IMHO not needed.

Mst of the skilled hunters that I know use a .270, .30-06 or .308.

And the trajectory of a .308 is perfectly adequate for a skilled hunter.
I love this guy!! You did forget, at realistic range! I don't care what caliber, just be realistic.
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Mu biggest heartburn with with the belted magnums is not the guns themselves, but the "wannabe" snipers that try to shoot animals 500 yards away, and wound them.

Over the years, I've lost too many hunting days in the mountains tracking wounded animals that some guy shot at ridiculous range because the guy in the gun store told him that his Remchester Belchfire magnum would hit anything he could see.

In the hands of a skilled hunter, magnums are fine, although, IMHO not needed.

Mst of the skilled hunters that I know use a .270, .30-06 or .308.

And the trajectory of a .308 is perfectly adequate for a skilled hunter.
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I love this guy!! You did forget, at realistic range! I don't care what caliber, just be realistic.
i think that with some the reason they resort to large caliber magnums is to over compensate for their lack of skill with a rifle. not all who use them but some. i have a magnum, a 7mm Rem. Mag. and if i were to use it for hunting, i probably wouldn't go much beyond the range of my 30-06. i think a person should stay within the range they can shoot at accurately, regardless of what caliber they use. if a person can on group shots accurately at 300 yards, then they have no business taking a shot at 500 yards.

JP, you're correct again, realistic ranges. know what the cartridge can do and what a person can do. be realistic. i like that!
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You make allot of sense. What about having it re-barreled?
Never thought about that! That sounds better than buying a new one. If i wanted to, say change it to 30-06, would i be able to use the same bolt?
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