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Old 05-18-2014, 06:26 PM   #51
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From a tactical stand point, a rifle can do anything a shotgun can (CQB) but the reverse is not true as the shotgun has a VERY limited range. If you have to chose just one chose the rifle!
unless you drop some slugs in it with a red dot.
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Remington 870 12 ga and Ruger SR1911 for me. Ithaca Model 37 20 ga and Sig SP2022 for my wife.


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Lightweight AR-15 carbine.

Four legged critters aren't a problem where I live and, if ever they were, the AR-15 would take care of those, too.

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i like the idea of a good lever gun for property and even possibly home defense. short, light, good capacity, handles well, and.....bit more "friendly" looking.....

imo, a good pistol caliber lever like 357 or 44 mag would do great double duty as a good ranch, varmint, and "get off my porch" gun.

a lever also has the nice action sound of a pump shotgun...y'know...the "wrong house" sound.....

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I could care less about someone's rendition of my rights, and think the "bubba" stories are a bunch of BS.
Worked in prison for 12 years so far, and I can assure you, despite our best efforts and PREA, prison rape is unfortunately still quite prevalent. Better make sure it's such a heinous crime that you get lockdown, not an open yard - then they can only try to shank you or dart you on the way to and from the shower or "recreation".

As for home defense long gun, this works for me.

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unless you drop some slugs in it with a red dot.
Still not good passed about 100 yds.
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Unfortunately people who live on a farm face a problem of thieves who want to steal stuff in out building or like where I'm at cattle rustlers so there is a chance you would encounter a threat outside
Cattle rustlers are uncommon round here. But diesel rustlers and catalytic converter thieves are a dime a dozen.

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From a tactical stand point, a rifle can do anything a shotgun can (CQB) but the reverse is not true as the shotgun has a VERY limited range. If you have to chose just one chose the rifle!
You mean those 200 yard shots I have made with a sabot were pure luck? 300 grain sabots only drop 7" at 200 yards.
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Cattle rustlers are uncommon round here. But diesel rustlers and catalytic converter thieves are a dime a dozen.



You mean those 200 yard shots I have made with a sabot were pure luck? 300 grain sabots only drop 7" at 200 yards.
cattle rustling is still a hanging offense in many states. diesel and catalytic converters, not so much.
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'home defense rifle'

I see no need for a rifle inside my house. The distances at which shots would be taken are all lethal handgun distances. The only advantage I can see to a rifle for indoor defense is a 30 rd magazine....that, and if I want to kill a perp and an innocent with one bullet, via a wall.....

Now, if we are talking about shooting out of the windows of your house, Alamo-style defense.......which is more than likely not a valid castle-defense situation, well......in that case.........I'll take one of these:

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Still not good passed about 100 yds.

There are competitions where they use slugs out to 200 and they do just fine.


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