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Old 04-07-2014, 08:50 AM   #21
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5.56MM 55 grain FMJ, 9MM is a distant second
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Let me get this straight. You are saying a FMJ 5.56 is best for self defense?
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Let me get this straight. You are saying a FMJ 5.56 is best for self defense?
Between 9MM and 5.56MM, at in-home distances, yes

At distances much over 50M or so, the differences should be pretty obvious

Do some googling. Better yet, don't take my word for it or anyone else's. I won't. Go out and shoot some things (things that are already dead or inanimate to begin with). See which loads do what to what.
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Let me get this straight. You are saying a FMJ 5.56 is best for self defense?
Not that I did not consider the issue of over-penetration, but the OP stated that over-penetration is not an issue (if that was your concern).

Even if it was, I'd still select 5.56MM M193 (55 grain FMJ) over 9MM.
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Between 9MM and 5.56MM, at in-home distances, yes

At distances much over 50M or so, the differences should be pretty obvious

Do some googling. Better yet, don't take my word for it or anyone else's. I won't. Go out and shoot some things (things that are already dead or inanimate to begin with). See which loads do what to what.
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Not that I did not consider the issue of over-penetration, but the OP stated that over-penetration is not an issue (if that was your concern).

Even if it was, I'd still select 5.56MM M193 (55 grain FMJ) over 9MM.
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Let me get this straight. You are saying a FMJ 5.56 is best for self defense?
How odd. One issue w/ a 5.56/.223 semi is it is not built for CQ, or should I say easy for a newbie to use in close up situations. A handgun, or even a pistol caliber carbine is easier to handle. People that say over penetration is no issue never think that maybe, just maybe, it really could be. There is a reason that frangible ammo came into existence. If you are shooting in a house, you don't need a 3000fps bullet.
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I did not see it, but I assume you considered the inexpensive hipoint 9mm carbine?




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Let me get this straight. You are saying a FMJ 5.56 is best for self defense?
Everybody knows that a 12 gauge shooting bird shot is the best answer for HD.

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I like the hipoint, it's the magazine capacity that I found unattractive.
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I like the hipoint, it's the magazine capacity that I found unattractive.
IIRC, that was due to it being built as the answer to the Clinton-era Assault Weapons Ban.
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I like the hipoint, it's the magazine capacity that I found unattractive.
So get the .45, make a hit mean a bit more.

So I'll say it, what kind of defense will you encounter at 100 yards? Other than a societal breakdown or zombie apocalypse, you will have a hard time fighting it in court.
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i promise you, no matter what gun/caliber you get......... if shes comfy and somewhat accurate everything will be ok, nothing scarier than a angry woman with a gun.
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