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Amsdorf 11-09-2013 03:06 PM

Hollywood Mythbusting: CARS DO NOT STOP BULLETS
 
As you get into firearms seriously you quickly realize how many myths Hollywood has ingrained into our culture about firearms. Cars immediately blow up when shot by a single pistol round, or everyone shooting a pistol will hit their target when it is 50 yards away, while running, while doing a roll, and .... of course ... the old, "Cars stop bullets" myth.

How many times have you seen cops or bad guys take up position behind a car door and watch the bullets just "spark" off the door.

Total myth.

So, if somebody refuses to believe that this is a myth, just watch this video.

We shot the snot out of a vehicle out at Asymmetric Solutions and set up the camera to capture rounds coming all the way through the car, left to right, in one door, through the vehicle and out the other door and they just kept on traveling.

We were shooting 5.56 NATO rounds and you can see the damage we did previously before this short clip.

Now, to be fair, you CAN take cover from fire behind the car's engine block, but that is a bit tricky too, for you can never be absolutely sure you are fully covered by the block, but it is way better than nothing.

http://youtu.be/T2OuTY5JuCk

ScottA 11-09-2013 03:40 PM

Well, the problem is you didn't have the special molecularly hardened paint job.

TheDesertFox 11-09-2013 03:43 PM

All you have to do is go to a MG shoot and observe their talent for putting a lot of holes in old, 90s junker cars. If the engine block won't have ant of it then it's time for the Lahti :-). Good job testing. Did you use any other rounds besides 5.56?

Axxe55 11-09-2013 03:49 PM

i have used old cars for testing pistol rounds and was astonished when another member a couple of years ago told me a 9mm won't penetrate a car windshield. totally false. it will with ease and go through both seats and ending up in the trunk.

i have used a 17 HMR at 50 years and penetrated a car windshield. i have shot 9mm, 40, 45 and a 44 spl. through one door and exiting the other.

most pistol caliber have plenty of power to penetrate car doors.

Anna_Purna 11-09-2013 04:10 PM

With all the testing they do in L.A. ya figure hollywood could get it right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrlUsaYlKPs

trip286 11-09-2013 04:10 PM

They're more structurally designed to absorb impacts over a larger surface area. I don't think that was the intent behind engineering designs, but it's the effect. Honestly! I think engineers of old were just trying to make them look pretty.

Axxe55 11-09-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trip286 (Post 1427137)
They're more structurally designed to absorb impacts over a larger surface area. I don't think that was the intent behind engineering designs, but it's the effect. Honestly! I think engineers of old were just trying to make them look pretty.

car engineers design cars to absorb impact so that the passengers survice in an accident. they don't design them to be bulletproof.

tanks and armored cars are designed to be bulletproof.

SSGN_Doc 11-09-2013 04:55 PM

Have been told in training that the best places to take up "cover" behind a car was to have the engine block and wheels between yourself and the shooter. The wheels and brake parts are a little heavier. Nothing is ideal but, those are probably the best options you've got.
I remember reading a newspaper article about a guy who had killed some people and he was running from the cops. He had packed his car with phone books and tried to run a roadblock . That pesky bullet through the windshield did him in.

nitestalker 11-09-2013 06:39 PM

I think this is a carry over from the Depression era Highway "Desperadoes." The heavy old Packard, Hudson Touring cars were rolling tanks. There were few firearms in police arsenals that would shoot thru a trunk lid.
The .357 Magnum was developed in 1935 to shoot through car bodies. Newer cars are lighter and modern firearms are more effective.:)

Garadex 11-09-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SSGN_Doc (Post 1427175)
I remember reading a newspaper article about a guy who had killed some people and he was running from the cops. He had packed his car with phone books and tried to run a roadblock .

There is a Mythbusters episode about that. Can't remember how it went but I do remember that it was entertaining.


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