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Old 09-10-2013, 09:34 AM   #11
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They might be naturally over-gassed for "functionality purposes"
HK-91's don't use gas at all for their operation, they're roller lockers... roller delayed blowback.

The weight of the bolt, crude design of the buffer assembly, power of the cartridge, and violence of the roller locking action is what causes the resultant recoil.
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HK-91's don't use gas at all for their operation, they're roller lockers... roller delayed blowback.

The weight of the bolt, crude design of the buffer assembly, power of the cartridge, and violence of the roller locking action is what causes the resultant recoil.
Ahhhhh ok. My bad. Sorry for the misinformation

I had actually meant to phrase my first comment as a question, but i clearly failed at that. So it came off like i knew what i was talking about, which is rarely the case :rollseyes:
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Well I have a hk 91 ptr and was going to get rid of it and get a scar but hell I can't find one.

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Yeah finding one is tough. Finding one that is under 3k is twice as hard. I paid 2400 before the election. I know a source up here in wisconsin that has them frequently at a reasonable charge . Midwest industries but they don't sell their guns online. Only out of their store front

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Yeah finding one is tough. Finding one that is under 3k is twice as hard. I paid 2400 before the election. I know a source up here in wisconsin that has them frequently at a reasonable charge . Midwest industries but they don't sell their guns online. Only out of their store front
How much are they
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last time i saw one there was about three weeks ago at 2900

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Well I have a hk 91 ptr and was going to get rid of it and get a scar but hell I can't find one.
I've seen SCAR-17S rifles advertised on GunBroker for between 2.5K and 2.7K. The FDE rifles are priced higher than the black rifles, but it's the exact same gun in all other respects.

A real HK-91 will set you back at least that much.
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I've seen SCAR-17S rifles advertised on GunBroker for between 2.5K and 2.7K. The FDE rifles are priced higher than the black rifles, but it's the exact same gun in all other respects.

A real HK-91 will set you back at least that much.
What's the difference between the scar 17s and the 17h
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What's the difference between the scar 17s and the 17h
I'm not aware of a 17H model (although I have seen prototype heavy barrel Mk20 variants called SCAR-17H by gun writers). The 17S is the civilian semi-auto only variant of the military/law enforcement select-fire Mk17. The Mk20 has a longer, heavier barrel for sniping and a different upper receiver design that extends beyond the gas block for mounting accessories like the UNS and laser rangerfinders and target designators (typically high powered IR lasers for painting targets for munitions and to point out targets to other operators). FN will, supposedly, release a civilian Mk20 variant in 2013 or 2014.

I just want a redesigned plastic lower that accepts SR-25 magazines so I can use PMAG's with the rifle. A 20" lightweight "long barrel" conversion would also be nice. It only adds 5 or 6 ounces to the weight of the weapon.
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I've owned 2 early HK 91. One with the slim forearm the 2nd with the wider forearm. They are reasonably accurate for a battle rifle but not on the same planet in terms of accuracy with the SCAR 17. As said before they are muzzle heavy and have a much harder recoil impulse than the Scar 17. I no longer own either of the HK 91's. So my choice would be the SCAR 17.

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