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gunnovice09 03-21-2012 01:26 AM

help for my friend
 
My friend is trying to decide between buying a savage 338 (no clue what model) or a m1a1 socom 2 308. I know nothing bout the two so I cannot really help him. Your help is appreciated.

texaswoodworker 03-21-2012 01:31 AM

I don't know much about the 338 (is it a RUM or a Lapua?), but I hear the m1a1 is a great gun. I think the ammo for it is cheaper too. (especially if he was talking about the lapua). They should both be extremely accurate guns.

gunnovice09 03-21-2012 01:37 AM

Hes looking at lapua. I told him the ammo for that is pretty expensive.

Txhillbilly 03-21-2012 02:52 AM

Unless your friend has someplace to really shoot a 338 lapua and in my opinion,would be having access to a minimum of 500 yard shots with it,buying a caliber like that is just wasting money,if the user doesn't possess the skills needed to operate it.
Your friend should also be an experienced shooter for a weapon like this.They were designed for long range shooting-1000 yards,and farther.And 99.9% of the people that want them,don't possess the skills to shoot them.

Please don't take this the wrong way,but there are a lot of experienced shooters that are tired of inexperienced shooters that say-I want to shoot Long Range.
It takes years of experience to shoot long range.You don't just go out and buy a rifle that will shoot 1000yds,load it,and all of a sudden start blasting rounds down range to the target.
You need to be able to shoot very good at short range before you start wanting to shoot at the longer ones.Then you need to know Ballistics,Wind,Weather,Spin drift,and even the Rotation of the earth to be a good long range shooter.

texaswoodworker 03-21-2012 02:53 AM

I think the 338 lapua can reach out to longer distances then the .308, but they are expensive. What exactly is he wanting to do? If he's wanting a really long range, really accurate rifle, and doesn't care about the cost, the .338 would be good for that. If he is wanting an accurate rifle for fun at the range, the .308 is a really good choice.

robocop10mm 03-21-2012 03:26 AM

The M1A SOCOM is a very handy rifle capable of good accuracy out to maybe 500 yards. The .308 will take any deer sized game with little difficulty. The .338 Lapua is a fine LONG range round. Shooting one at under 500 yards seems a bit silly. Ammo is at least 2X as expensive than the .308 and very limited availability. Comparing one to the other is like comparing apples to tractor trailers. IMHO, many people who buy .338's are doing so because they want the biggest, baddest, most useless rifle they can own. Kind of like people who wanted the .44 mag 40 years ago or the .500 S&W today. Most have absolutely no business owning anything that powerful.

Before I get flamed for these opinions let me say this; All the above listed calibers have a place. Most of the owners have no clue what that place is. They just want to stroke their egos and appear as macho as possible. 95% cannot hit the broad side of a barn with them. They would be better served with a really loud and firey blank gun. I have a .45-70 that is just fun to shoot (for me). I have no real purpose for it except to sling large chunks of lead through solid objects. Yes, I can shoot it accurately, but few around me want to shoot it and I'm OK with that.

7mmstw 03-21-2012 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Txhillbilly
Unless your friend has someplace to really shoot a 338 lapua and in my opinion,would be having access to a minimum of 500 yard shots with it,buying a caliber like that is just wasting money,if the user doesn't possess the skills needed to operate it.
Your friend should also be an experienced shooter for a weapon like this.They were designed for long range shooting-1000 yards,and farther.And 99.9% of the people that want them,don't possess the skills to shoot them.

Please don't take this the wrong way,but there are a lot of experienced shooters that are tired of inexperienced shooters that say-I want to shoot Long Range.
It takes years of experience to shoot long range.You don't just go out and buy a rifle that will shoot 1000yds,load it,and all of a sudden start blasting rounds down range to the target.
You need to be able to shoot very good at short range before you start wanting to shoot at the longer ones.Then you need to know Ballistics,Wind,Weather,Spin drift,and even the Rotation of the earth to be a good long range shooter.

Agree with you completely

gunnovice09 03-21-2012 05:16 PM

Thanks for all the input guys I was trying to talk him into 308 and now after I told him what u guys said hes getting 308 now. I appreciate all the help!


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