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Old 11-29-2012, 02:52 AM   #1
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I have two five round magazines and I have no idea what they go too. Both smoothly chamber 7.62x54R which makes no sense to me. I have not been able to find anything that fires that round and uses a similar magazine. One has markings:

Santa Fe
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Made in Japan

Upon doing some research I notice the British Enfield .303 uses a similar style magazine but it appears they were only made in 10 round magazines.

The other is brass, shorter and boxier with no identifying marks.

I don't know why I have become obsessed with this but I really want to track down the firearms the work with. I might want to purchase them.

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They definitely look like old Lee Enfield mags, but they definitely aren't. I have no idea.

We have a guy, (we usually keep him in a padded cell, lest he drive off in his jazzy chair) who's a bit of an encyclopedia. Maybe he'll stop in and tell you where they came from, what they go to, when they were made, the composition and density of the materials, how many were made, and on... and on... and on... Yeah, he's that good. I asked him yesterday when keys were invented (as per a question asked by my son), and I was blown away at the information...

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i'm 90% sure those are Enfield .303 mags that were sporterized to hold 5 rounds, as required by law for hunting in some states. Santa Fe was a company that used to sporter alot of mil-surp rifles so that would seem to be one of their custom jobs

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That is what a lot of the research I have done said. .303 is just a tiny bit bigger than the 7.62x54R so it makes sense and I am rather sure it would load. The brass one still confuses me though because I was pretty sure they stopped making brass magazines before Santa Fe was reworking old brit rifles. I also have not seen the smaller brass one on any of the Enfeilds online (I know, it is the internet and not all things should be trusted). I also have two stripper clips that WILL NOT fit a 7.62x54R, they are just a little too big. I am assuming the magazines and clips came from the same rifle (long story). I know all combat rifles from that era were required to be capable of using either the magazines or stripper clips.

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Those are Enfield Magazines, and they are not "OLD" you never seen an old 5rd magazine...............

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They definitely look like old Lee Enfield mags, but they definitely aren't. I have no idea.

We have a guy, (we usually keep him in a padded cell, lest he drive off in his jazzy chair) who's a bit of an encyclopedia. Maybe he'll stop in and tell you where they came from, what they go to, when they were made, the composition and density of the materials, how many were made, and on... and on... and on... Yeah, he's that good. I asked him yesterday when keys were invented (as per a question asked by my son), and I was blown away at the information...

He KNOWS EVERYTHING. He's like a wizard or something...
Oh. He must be my know it all brother in-law that no one can stand.
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I am pretty much convinced that these are Enfield .303 mags. I have determined after closer inspection that the second one (the "Brass one) is a custom cut down. pretty well done too. took me a minute to realize the damage was not due to wear and tear but shoddy welding. It looks like a steel 10 rnd mag that was cut and a piece of brass was welded to the bottom making it a 5 rnd mag. you guys were right. it must have been done to comply with hunting regulations or something. Thanks for the help!

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Look to be Enfields. Easy enough to tell -- try 'em in one!

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