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Old 12-24-2013, 01:49 PM   #11
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I would like a Ruger #1 myself. But I would get one in a more modern cartridge. Maybe a .308 or something like that. I would be concerned about ammo availability in 100 years. I have gotten my son to help me with reloading a little. But who knows latter in life. I would hate for them to sell it because they couldn't get ammo.
That's a good point, I will admit I don't see a whole lot of .45-70 locally.

I agree with nitestalker, I would not want an heirloom made in japan. I'm sure the quality is there, but it's just not the same.
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Ammo in 100 years? Most of the popular rounds we shoot today are over 100 years old. Have you had problems getting .45 ACP, 30-06, 30-30, 45-70, .38 Special the list is endless. Classic firearms in classic cartridges are always more valuable than standard over the counter chamberings. A Pre-64 Mdl. 70 chambered in a .300 H&H or .375 H&H will bring more than the same rifle chambered in .308 Winchester. If you are not a gun collector talk to one. The internet is a great source for Walmart shoppers. For a firearms investment get some good advise.

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Of your dad's firearms, which reminds you of him the most? Perhaps your first hunt or dad's most memorable.

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Most rifles that end up as heirlooms are single shots and bolt actions. Neither requires a lot of care and they are simple guns that don't break.

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25-5, I will inherit (hopefully no time soon) several guns that have many memories attached, but dad wants to get us new guns of our choice.

As far as caliber, I can't imagine there ever being a big problem finding 45-70 ammo (or reloading), and that is a classic cartridge. However, I'd like to build a "memory" gun, and what's better than the gun a boy kills his first deer with. That being said, I'm not sure if an 8 or 10 year old can comfortably shoot the 45-70 round. That's why I threw out the 243. Although not an old, classic round (developed in 1955 I think??), it is extremely versatile. Easily kills deer, varmint, and with some of the cartridge development in the last few years, who knows the potential we may see in the future.

Is the Ruger Numer 1 NOT made in the USA? I just assumed it was, but may be a deal breaker if it's made outside of the US.

Thank you all so much for your comments, and is look forward to "seeing" some more of your thoughts....

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If you decide to go with a Ruger No.1, I agree that a more versatile caliber would make a better gun for a boy to shoot and .243 was my father's favorite and is one of my favorite calibers. I had a tropical No.1 in .45-70 and, being young and poor, traded it for a pistol that I no longer have, but, that's another story. I liked the .45-70 but I agree with you about the .243's versatility. As to the American made question, according to the Ruger website at: http://www.ruger.com/products/no1/, it is American made.

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i personally don't think you could go wrong with the Ruger #1. i have shot several over the years and enjoyed them a lot.

pick something that appeals to you in the cartridge that appeals to you nad your needs or wants and buy the best one that you can find. buy a quality made rifle and take care of it, and you will have an heirlloom rifle to pass down to your grandchildren one day.

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I know someone who's father recently died.

In a bedroom closet, at the back of the house,

they found a beautiful unfired revolver, in the original box,

original papers, with a couple boxes of shells, which

had been sitting there for over 50 years, unopened.

Fortunately, it was nickel-plated. Had it simply been

blued, it would probably now be a rusted hulk.

Lesson learned: Anything I want to pass on to my

kids has a stainless coating, to help preserve it's

physical condition, over the decades...

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25-5, I will inherit (hopefully no time soon) several guns that have many memories attached, but dad wants to get us new guns of our choice.

As far as caliber, I can't imagine there ever being a big problem finding 45-70 ammo (or reloading), and that is a classic cartridge. However, I'd like to build a "memory" gun, and what's better than the gun a boy kills his first deer with. That being said, I'm not sure if an 8 or 10 year old can comfortably shoot the 45-70 round. That's why I threw out the 243. Although not an old, classic round (developed in 1955 I think??), it is extremely versatile. Easily kills deer, varmint, and with some of the cartridge development in the last few years, who knows the potential we may see in the future.

Is the Ruger Numer 1 NOT made in the USA? I just assumed it was, but may be a deal breaker if it's made outside of the US.

Thank you all so much for your comments, and is look forward to "seeing" some more of your thoughts....

I have a Ruger M77 RSI International in .243. It is very nice with an 18" barrel and Mannlicher stock. A fine whitetail killer.
I don't know if they are still made.
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I have a Ruger M77 International in .243. It is very nice with an 18" barrel and Mannlicher stock. A fine whitetail killer.
I don't know if they are still made.
not for sure they offer that version anymore. i think they discontinued them a few years ago IIRC. they were a classy looking rifle too.
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