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SubZero 10-05-2012 11:15 PM

Have 300WSM and .270 Win - Those enough without getting a .308?
 
I have a Tikka T3 Lite 300WSM and a Remington 700 ADL 270 Win.

Put a Limb Saver on the 300WSM and the Remington I just got has one (or a type of one) on it already.

Opted not to get a .308, mainly because at the time I got the Tikka a few years back, they had the 300WSM in stock and not a 308 or 30-06. Just bought the 270 Win earlier this week.

My bud was saying I should have got a .308, as it's the best Sniper/Hunting combo (his words).

My thought is, I'm not a sniper, but if I was, a .270 would do the job nicely since it can take down a white-tailed deer with very little kick back and a clean, flat trajectory. If I wanted to go nuts and whack some mobster for a bit farther away, I could use the 300WSM. And, the 300WSM should handle bigger game just fine, I figure.

So, is the spread of a .270 and 300WSM good enough, or should I have gotten a .308?

Thanks folks. Appreciate it.

hardluk1 10-05-2012 11:29 PM

NO need for any in between cartidges. You could hand load for the 300 and bring it down as far 2000fps or a mid range 308 or in the 180gr class it makes a great elk or moose cartidge. How about a .223 good varment /coyote rifle with you got to have another rifle.

Zodiac131911 10-05-2012 11:32 PM

If you can't kill it with the rifles you have you might not should have been shooting at it lol. if you want a .308 get it, otherwise the rifled you have will work just fine on about anything.

The_Kid 10-05-2012 11:46 PM

I'd rather have the the 270 over the 308, for long range shooting.

jpattersonnh 10-05-2012 11:52 PM

The .308 is not in between. The .270 will do everything the .308 will plus a little more. With all the calibers availible you will always find someone that claims X is better than Y. But it rarely holds true. Sometimes it comes down to what a person feels comfortable with. With myself it is the platform that I'm using. I always thought I would never own more than 1 rifle in the same caliber, well I was wrong. When it comes to Heavy game such as Elk a good Quality 150gr bullet will do the job out to 300 Yards in a .270 without question, Your .300 stretches that at least 150 yards. The 2 calibers you have are very versitile. You can go down to 120gr for yotes or p-dogs at distance w/ the .270, or take a 200gr and hammer an elk at 500 yards w/ the WSM. It is all about what you do, not what others think.

Yunus 10-06-2012 12:02 AM

If you wanted a .308 the only reason I could see to justify it would be for cost. Surplus rounds would make it much cheaper to shoot than a .270 or 300wsm. If you are looking solely from a perspective of what you are able to take down then you have more capabilities than the .308 would offer IMO.

jpattersonnh 10-06-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Kid (Post 965951)
I'd rather have the the 270 over the 308, for long range shooting.

Opinions are like @ssholes, they all stink! For just shooting? At paper .308 has an advantage, a real wide array of quality match bullets. For hunting, both have positives. It really comes down to shooter confidence.

The_Kid 10-06-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jpattersonnh (Post 965975)
Opinions are like @ssholes, they all stink! For just shooting? At paper .308 has an advantage, a real wide array of quality match bullets. For hunting, both have positives. It really comes down to shooter confidence.

If you can't find a bullet to fit the bill from this, you're doing it wrong.

It "comes down to" when does the projectile's speed reach transonic; which the 270 stretches 300 yards further, (using sane loads.) After that is "comes down to" and which bucks wind best; which the advantage again goes to the 270.

"Shooter confidence" is always higher when physics are stacked in the shooters favor.

Zodiac131911 10-06-2012 01:56 AM

That's why i like reloading you get the best of everything

jpattersonnh 10-06-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Kid (Post 966038)
If you can't find a bullet to fit the bill from this, you're doing it wrong.

It "comes down to" when does the projectile's speed reach transonic; which the 270 stretches 300 yards further, (using sane loads.) After that is "comes down to" and which bucks wind best; which the advantage again goes to the 270.

"Shooter confidence" is always higher when physics are stacked in the shooters favor.

How can you use the same load when the 2 have nothing in common except the base diameter??

Here is actual data, now the .270 is using a 160gr while the .308 is using a 168gr match as there are no match bullets for .270. MV in the .270 is 2650, .308 is 2700. I am rounding both down. The .270 by 30fps and the .308 by 50fps because no one uses max loads often.

Bullet drop in inches w/ 100 yard zero:
.270 at 250 yards, -9.6, 350 -24.1, 450 -48.3, 550 -83.3, 650 -131.6
.308 at 250 yards, - 8.5, 350 -22.9, 450 -45.9, 550 -79.1, 650 -124.8

Not sure what physics you were talking about that pertain to accuracy. They both shoot pretty even. I'm not seeing a 300 yard advantage at all. All loading data is from the Hodgdon site, everything calculated on a JBM calculator.

With 150gr ballistic tips the .308 has the advantage again in MV by 100fps+-
.270 at 250 -7.6, 350 -20.6
.308 at 250 -7.1, 350 -19.3
The long bullet of the .270 may perform better on game at distance, but not on paper.


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