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Old 05-19-2012, 12:50 AM   #41
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In Utah? Really!?
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well i am probably going to get a 10/22. i might be moving to utah. how are the gun laws there and whats required to own one? from what i read you still need a special licence.
No, assuming that you are over 18 all you need is a clean criminal history, i.e., felons and a few other categories are prohibited from owning "dangerous weapons." Check out their gun laws at http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_050000.htm. Start there and read through to about 76-10-524. It's pretty straightforward language, much better than that of your current home state. I found the link at http://www.handgunlaw.us.
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The 1022 is a great gun and you can use it as a platform for building a custom rifle to your tastes. There are a plethora of aftermarket parts for it to squeeze out it's maximum potential. Volquartsen is the leader in this area. I personally would go with an AR15...you can change out the uppers and change calibers easy. Stay away from 7.62X39...too much taper in the case causes too much bolt thrust and wear...the AR platform was not designed for this. You can get a Tactical Solutions upper for it..one of the best out there...and shoot 22lr. i have a Rock River AR in 5.56 NATO and it shoots GREAT! Built it myself and saved about $300 compared to a built gun configured the way I like. I am going to make an upper in 300 Blackout/30 AR Remington. 5.56 ammo can still be had pretty cheap, not as cheap as 22lr though! I reload a lot....3000 rounds a day! So for me, reloading is a viable option.
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http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_050909.htm

so what i read here means (im 14 btw) that i can purchase a firearm with my my parents with me?

this state gets better and better compared to the laws in illinois
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Marlin Model 60.

A damn good little rifle and as much fun as you want to have.

You can pick up a new one for $170 With a scope. Best plinking value for the buck imo.
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Ok..... just to throw another Caliber at you to think about..... you could also look into a 9mm Carbine. 9mm Ammo will run about $21 for a box of 100 Rounds at Walley World. It is a Pistol Round, so don't look to get a lot of Range out of it

I've got a Beretta CX4 9mm Carbine (Kinda pricey and out of your Budget, but you may find a Used one in your price range...). It has 17 & 20-rnd Mags, which I can share with my Beretta PX4 Pistol. There's also a Conversion Magazine Insert, for the 92 Series. which allows you to share Mags between the CX4 Carbine, and any 92 Series Beretta Pistol (92FS, 92A1, M9, and a few others...), should you decide to buy one in the future.

Another 9mm Carbine I have, is a Hi-Point 995-TS, which has 10-rnd Mags. It's well within your Budget, and you can get one with either a 4X Scope or Red Dot Scope for under $320 (Not including Tax & Fees...).

As for 22 Caliber Rifles, I've got a 10/22 with an M1 Conversion Kit, S&W 15-22, GSG-522, Sig Sauer 522, and my wife has a Marlin 795. For customizing, I'd say the 10/22 and S&W 15-22 are the easiest to Mod, due to the number of Aftermarket Parts available.

22 Ammo is by far the Cheapest and most plentiful that you'll find. I pay $20.97 for a Box of Win 555 at Walley World. You could shoot all weekend long with that.

Just my $.02 worth!

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so what i read here means (I'm 14 btw) that i can purchase a firearm with my my parents with me?

this state gets better and better compared to the laws in illinois
Most of the United States looks good compared to the laws in Illinois.

But (IANAL, BTW) no, I don't think you're correct. I believe you'd have to be eighteen to legally purchase from a dealer under federal law if not state law as well. But your parents, as your legal guardians, could purchase it and gift it to you. They, however, would need no FOID or other permit to do so other than simply filling out the Federal Form 4473 at the dealer when purchasing.

Blackbeard's suggestion of a pistol-caliber carbine would be a good one were it not for your age. Federal law prohibits selling pistol ammo to anyone under 21 so your parents would have to buy all of your ammo until you reached that age whereas you can buy your own rifle ammo at age eighteen. This is why the clerks at Wal*Mart ask if it's for a pistol or rifle when you purchase .22LR ammo. You could, theoretically, buy your own 9mm ammo at age 18 by saying it's for your rifle but you'd probably run into resistance from the store or clerk more often than not.

I think you're going to find your firearms owning horizons so greatly expanded once you escape from Illinois that you're going to be overwhelmed. Real freedom can be an awesome thing.
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Default 10/22 or AR

If you can afford one, an AR is definitely a nice first centerfire rifle. I have a problem with buying a second upper for the AR as they aren't cheap. For a little more than the cost of a quality second upper, you can buy another whole rifle. If cost is a real limiting factor, I would go with the 10/22.
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ok thanks alot to everyone!Also the house were looking at has 3 acres of land and if my parents and neighbors said its ok to shoot a 10/22 or pistol caliber carbine would i run into trouble with the police anyway? also this neighborhoods houses are pretty spread out and everyone has some land if that matters. ive seen videos of people shooting in there yards so i was wondering.

also i was consideringthe high points but they are pretty ugly lol they did have a version that looked nicer but i think theyre discontinued however im still considering it
the ar is a little pricey for me. the cheapest bushmasters i saw ran for 600 at that price i would rather buy an ak with some accesories like this one http://www.slickguns.com/product/romanian-ak-bps-shooters-deal-49999
or i would want to save a little more and buy a akdal mk19b 12 gauge.
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http://www.slickguns.com/product/excel-arms-x-22r-rifle-22601-black-22lr-25rds-usable-w-1022-mags-36799-shipped
also is this just a 10/22 thats dressed up?
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