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Old 03-07-2014, 05:17 PM   #1
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Default Getting into long range shooting and have a few questions.

I'm trying to get into long range shooting. I have a rem 700 sps tactical .308. I plan to put a better scope on it but right now it's just a cheap tasco 6x42. It dose not have bullet drop or wind compensators. I'm going to be shooting distances between 100 and 1,000 yards. Ware do I need to start? What equipment do I need? I always see long distance shooting righting in a note pad after they shoot. What are they righting?


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They are writing down the results of the shot how many clicks on the scope turrets what the wind was what the temp was all sorts of info goes into a notebook because then you use that to make a dope card for different conditions and distances


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Do you know a link to something that showed every thing that needs to be rote down? And explains a dope card


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Ballistic drop & drift charts for the ammo you’re using. Ability to read the wind's direction & speed. A scope with hash marks on the reticle. Comprehension of MOA scope turret adjustments. All of which can be found on the web or in a book, except for the scope I guess.

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Really? Google is your friend:

http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/

Below, just one type of 'dope card'. You can have different cards for different needs.

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I know a few people that have note books with damd near every shot they have ever pulled the trigger on.....including their hunts. One gent has notes that go back to '58. In order to predict the future, you have to know the past. Do you reload yet?

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If you want to get good at long range shooting use the gear you got until your ready. You will know your ready when you have mastered consistent moa groups at 100 200 and 300 yards. At that point you will know enough to know what to ask about optics.

Going past 300yards and being good at it pretty much requires handloading. Factory ammo is good for 200 and maybe 300 if you use really pricey black hills.

Gear isn't really a limiting factor for a beginer its the linkages between the eye and the trigger finger... once those are working in harmony THEN start worrying about gear. Use what ya got for a while. Get experience shooting at distance to build a knowledge base to judge what other folks will tell you in regardw to their experience with optics.

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I know a few people that have note books with damd near every shot they have ever pulled the trigger on.....including their hunts. One gent has notes that go back to '58. In order to predict the future, you have to know the past. Do you reload yet?

Not yet but that will be my next investment.


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[QUOTE=JonM;1525333]If you want to get good at long range shooting use the gear you got until your ready. You will know your ready when you have mastered consistent moa groups at 100 200 and 300 yards. At that point you will know enough to know what to ask about optics.



Going past 300yards and being good at it pretty much requires handloading. Factory ammo is good for 200 and maybe 300 if you use really pricey black hills.



Gear isn't really a limiting factor for a beginer its the linkages between the eye and the trigger finger... once those are working in harmony THEN start worrying about gear. Use what ya got for a while. Get experience shooting at distance to build a knowledge base to judge what other folks will tell you in regardw to their experience with.

Iv been persistent at 100-200 yards for years with my 30-06.


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I recommend taking a long range shooting class if you're serious about it.

I could teach you, sure. But its hard to say it all over a forum.

Regarding the shooters writing down though. When I'm shooting here is my regimen for distance:

- Make sure my rifle is set to the correct yardage
- Place the iron sights on the center of the target
- Apply proper fundamentals on every shot
- Slow steady squeeze on the trigger when I am at a natural respiratory pause
- After the shot goes off, record in my book where I honestly think my shot should land
- Record in my book where my shot actually lands
- Do this until at least a three shot group
- Adjust my windage and elevation as needed (note: adjusting windage is not the same as making a wind call for me)
- Repeat as needed

Whatever adjustments I make will get written in my book. Wind values, wind calls, other random notes.

Again, you could learn a lot from a long distance shooting class.



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