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Old 04-08-2012, 08:53 PM   #41
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Yeah but isn't the model 70 juct a copy of the Mauser Rifle...

(sorry, just had to stir the pot....)
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It's an not exact copy, there are a few subtle differences.

At the risk of starting a $h!t storm I would say an improved design...
also look at the older Ruger M77 tang safety bolt action rifles, other than the safety, very close copy of the Mauser action. the Springfield 1903 was a loose copy of the Mauser action. the fact is, most modern bolt actions are based on the Mauser action, because it was and is one of the best designs of a bolt action rifles ever made.
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Rifles like men become Legends by being a little better at what they do good or bad. The Pre-64 has become a World Legend because of what it could do better than other rifles. It has a place in history as the "Riflemans Rifle" it has served Americans in peace and war. They look like any Mauser? There was only one Geo. Washington or Gen. Patton even though many look a likes have played them. You cannot copy a Legend.

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Fat chicks in stretch pants munching down on cheapo cheetos in the checkout line.
Or this, standing in line at subway in the local WalMart.
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I wish I could un-see that, Jeff.

It's going to haunt my dreams...

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Jeff-F, you should be publicly flogged! That picture qualifies as a crime against humanity!

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I thought you guys would enjoy that! I know it scared me for life when I seen it, I thought I would share.

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All the Winchester talk, I want to give my .02.

I inherited my uncles old Winchester 101 serial # puts it at 1963. It is one of the finest over unders IMHO.

I handled a newer 1001 at the NRA meetings in Pittsburgh and it does not feel the same. The finish is not as nice and it felt clunky. I've not read good reviews and I'm sad to see a great American name ruined. Just my .02.

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Or this, standing in line at subway in the local WalMart.
That's scary. They have whole websites making fun of people at Walmart.
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All the Winchester talk, I want to give my .02.

I inherited my uncles old Winchester 101 serial # puts it at 1963. It is one of the finest over unders IMHO.

I handled a newer 1001 at the NRA meetings in Pittsburgh and it does not feel the same. The finish is not as nice and it felt clunky. I've not read good reviews and I'm sad to see a great American name ruined. Just my .02.
i too am not quite as impressed with the newer ones either. i had a Winchester 101 made in the late 60's or early 70's, and it was superb in fit and finish. truly a beautiful shotgun just to look at. my only problem with it, i did seem to kick much harder than the Browning Citori i had, and i was offered more for it than i paid so it got sold. i wish now i had just held on to it instead after seeing where prices have gone on them.
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It's an not exact copy, there are a few subtle differences.

At the risk of starting a $h!t storm I would say an improved design...
Arguably, but the quality of metallic cartridges had inproved to a point where
some changes were able to be made were as in the 1890's case failure in
chamber were fairly common events.

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the Springfield 1903 was a loose copy of the Mauser action. the fact is, most modern bolt actions are based on the Mauser action, because it was and is one of the best designs of a bolt action rifles ever made.
Actually Mauser sued and won patent infringement on the US Gov't and was
receiving money from the US Gov't as a result until WWI started.

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Or this, standing in line at subway in the local WalMart.
EYEBLEACH needed; man warn us before you post that ****...
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