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Bob Wright 09-19-2008 02:44 PM

Firearms Classifications............
 
Ever consult a dictionary for a description of a firearm? Ever wonder what characteristics a gun must possess to be classified as a "whatever"?

For example, a carbine, by definition, is "a short, light rifle, formerly used by the cavalry." And, the term "assault rifle" is flung at us daily in our news media. Who defines such terms, the BATF? Congress? (God forbid.) The industry? Department of Defense?

Case in point: The Winchester lever action Model 94. With round barrel and bands on the forearm and magazine tube, its a carbine. With octagon barrel and capped forearm, its a rifle, barrel length not even considered. And, further, the carbine is chambered for rifle ammunition, then the U.S. Army adopts a short rifle chambered for a (by definition) pistol cartridge.


And further: The U.S. M1909 machine rifle, and the Browning Automatic Rifle are both considered light machine guns. And the M1917 Browning in .30 caliber, and the M2 .50 caliber, are both heavy machine guns.


Battle rifle vs. Assault rifle. Sub Machine Gun or Machine Pistol? And the British even threw in Machine Carbine.

Hmmmm. Got myself to thinking. Maybe I ought to sit down and publish something defining these arms, even promote myself to "expert" status.

On the other hand, think I'll let confusion continue to reign. Works for the Government.


Bob Wright

Mark F 09-19-2008 03:51 PM

Way to go Bob! You got the bonus plan!!

BUT it doesn't stop there!!

By definition an "engine" is any device that has internal combustion turning recpricating energy into rotary motion and torque.... OK.

A "motor" is a device that converts hydraulic or electrical energy into continuous rotary motion and torque... OK.

But we put MOTOR OIL into our engines. And we drive Motor Vehicles?

I can't find ENGINE OIL anywhere, there's lots of motor oil though...

So I have to run my engines on motor oil.

RL357Mag 09-20-2008 04:20 PM

Let's not forget that 90% of the uninformed populace refers to car engines as motors, thereby perpetuating the misuse of the word "motor". Gather around a group of "motor heads" at any car show and you will ALWAYS hear "what size motors' that thang got in it?"

Mark F 09-20-2008 11:25 PM

I correct people all the time for the mis-use of "motor" vs. engine. I get the dumbest looks you could ever imagine... they kind of look like obama.

Bob Wright 09-22-2008 02:54 PM

As far back as I can remember, an "engine" was any machine, the operator of which was an "engineer." It took an "engineer" to operate an automobile. If I remember correctly, even Biblical references mention "engines of war."

Bob Wright

Bob Wright 09-22-2008 02:56 PM

And, steam engines were external combustion devices.


And so are electric motors, the "combustion" occurring at some power plant.

Bob Wright


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