[Dillinger]

crusty - There is nothing "WRONG" with a Remington 700 as a first choice rifle.

This thread started, has been defended, and still stands as information for people to inform themselves on the action, and others that are available in the same category.

I am sure your Remmy 700 will shoot fine, and with a little tuning, will be a great stick. Lots of parts everywhere, a ton of gunsmiths that can work on it, and a ton of aftermarket parts to "upgrade" any perceived deficiencies.

Good luck with your purchase.

JD

[sgtdusmc]

I will try again, I have a 223 & 308 rem. 700. Both have the alum pillar bedded stock and 20" fluted heavy barrels. I did some trigger tuning and some load development. the 223 shoots sierria 69 gr mk into 6/10" at 100 yds and the 308 with 168gr sierria mk shoots .55/100 at 100 yds.

My Question is what would I gain, and at what cost for a custom built rifle of the same weight?

[Txhillbilly]

Originally Posted by sgtdusmc

I will try again, I have a 223 & 308 rem. 700. Both have the alum pillar bedded stock and 20" fluted heavy barrels. I did some trigger tuning and some load development. the 223 shoots sierria 69 gr mk into 6/10" at 100 yds and the 308 with 168gr sierria mk shoots .55/100 at 100 yds.

My Question is what would I gain, and at what cost for a custom built rifle of the same weight?

Shooting around .5 groups at 100yds is pretty damn good for a factory rifle,and unless you want to spend some coin on it,that's where your at.
If you are wanting to get smaller groups,there are several things that might work,but they are going to just cost you $$$.
You can have your action squared-timed-blueprinted,and have a premium barrel installed.
But this will not guarantee you smaller groups.

You could try some different powders,and primers on your loads,and see if that will change anything.
I've had loads that shot in the .4's,and tried a couple different brands of primers that put them in the .2's.

[ChicagoJoe]

Shouldn't Savage be included in this comparison? They seem to be coming on strong in recent years.

[firecaptain]

I've owned/own Remingtons, Winchesters, whetherbys, sako, ect. My favorite to shoot is my whetherby, my favorite hunting rifle is the winchester, I'll loan the remington to a friend that needs to borrow one. The military uses it "remington" because its the lowest bidder that meets spec.. I just don't like the wobbley feel in the action and the 10 cent extractor. Accuracy has more to do with adjusting the nut behind the butt stock.

[poncaguy]

Just found this, was very interesting. I have 788, Model 7 and a couple of 700's. Just got rid of a new 700, was given me problems, traded for a Howa 1500 30-06. The Howa is a much smoother action for sure, I will be buying more of them, no more 700's.............and just a note, had bolt handle snap of of a 788 in the past. My 700's , 788, and 7 are all very accurate........will keep them for sure...17 Fireball, 223, 22-250 and 6MM.......just like the feel and action of the Howa better............a 20" 7-08 is next.

[75370]

My most reliable and very accurate gun by far, my Winchester Mod. 70, 30-06, Super grade.
I've owned and sold or traded many guns over the years, this one remains.

[762]

this is like having a discussion on which truck is best from the factory.

everyone has their own opinion. you can find flaws with anything.

i'm only partial to remington b/c that's what i've always owned. as long as whatever i'm shooting at gets hit when i point the rifle at it, i could care less who makes its.

i've never had a problem with any of my 700's, but there can be a lemon anywhere.

my next build will probably be a savage just to save some $$$ and branch out.

[bowguy]

Dillinger, spending the first half of your opinion telling that you're unbiassed regarding the Remington 700 action is disingenuous at best. Someone must have whipped you bad with said rifle/action. Understand for Remington to produce a finished product that competes in benchrest/long range matches would be cost prohibitive for the average shooter. Even after many of thousands of rounds fired using this action and never having an extractor malfunction, I believe a sako style extractor would be a good thing.

If you have experienced extractor failure while fireforming brass this is the result of creating excessive chamber pressure. Fireforming never needs to be a dangerous exercise. Any number of good books on this subject can help you here.

[tonydewar]

what about a mauser 98 action?