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PowderBurnBassist 09-22-2011 10:05 PM

Enough Power?
 
A buddy of mine and I are going hog culling out at his ranch next week close to Madina, TX. I'm not sure what breed they are but they can't be that big. I need to know if my 30/30 will be powerful enough to to make one shot drops. I'll be taking a few boxes of Remington 170 Super-X. Any input is appreciated.

carter257mag 09-22-2011 10:18 PM

The gun I use is a mark V .257 weatherby mag. Use only 117 grain round nose bullets. It is increadably accurate and it may sound like a small caliber but the round nose bullets will drop just about anything you shoot at. This gun is going to have more distance than a 30/30. I've shot pigs up to 400 pounds in the shoulder at 150 yards and every time I shoot it. No matter what I'm shooting at, drops.

carter257mag 09-22-2011 10:20 PM

A 30/30 will drop any hog you want but a bullet that heavy might be too heavy and will only drop a good size pig at about a 100 yards. The bullet will lose power after that distance and will drop rapidly.

PowderBurnBassist 09-22-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by carter257mag
A 30/30 will drop any hog you want but a bullet that heavy might be too heavy and will only drop a good size pig at about a 100 yards. The bullet will lose power after that distance and will drop rapidly.

Yeah, physics are not on my side for the rounds I have but money is tight. We will probably be at 100 meters or so. Like you said, very heavy bullet. Even though these animals are pests, I still wish to honor them with a quick death. I don't want to have to track to find them bleeding out in pain. That does not resonant well with me. I guess I will have to be proper with my bullet placement.

Do you think it would be feasible to take my knife and round off the head of the bullet?

jpattersonnh 09-22-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by carter257mag (Post 584583)
A 30/30 will drop any hog you want but a bullet that heavy might be too heavy and will only drop a good size pig at about a 100 yards. The bullet will lose power after that distance and will drop rapidly.

The heavier mass weight of the bullet will help it retain energy. Forget velosity. Your .30-30 w/ the 170gr will be fine out to 150 yards. The 150gr will loose velosity faster and have much less energy. Where did you every get the idea less is more? THE BC and SD is much higher w/ a 170gr over a 150gr. That eqautes to killing power. Don't start hacking your bullets, you will loose accuracy and they will not perform as they were designed to.

jpattersonnh 09-22-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by carter257mag (Post 584583)
A 30/30 will drop any hog you want but a bullet that heavy might be too heavy and will only drop a good size pig at about a 100 yards. The bullet will lose power after that distance and will drop rapidly.

Carter, if you ever want to learn about shooting, hunting, PM me. Your way off base. I'd be happy to take you out and show you the difference. I'd take my 9.3x57 w/ a 286gr at 2000fps over your 3000fps 117gr on a charging or grazing pig anyday. What you are equating this to is a Porshe at 100mph hitting a tree, will it knock the tree down, maybe, but the car will stop. Now hit the same tree w/ a Semi tractor at 60 mph, it may be damaged, but it is still moving forward after the hit. The 30.30 is a 1960's caddy!

carter257mag 09-23-2011 12:48 AM

What gun is that? A 45/40? Let's see how far that can shoot with out droping. Maybe fifty yards. Just mind your own damn business so I dint have to make you feel like an idiot again.

carter257mag 09-23-2011 12:51 AM

Powderburn the 30/30 is gonna do just fine. It's a good choice for dropping heavier larger pigs. Thank you for not being an ******* like the guy who thinks shooting a tree with a 250 grain bullet will knock the tree down and then says I'm te one who doesn't know about guns. I hope ou get a huge trophy boar buddy. Good luck.

a7mmnut 09-23-2011 12:51 AM

You can always switch to the 150 Win. HP's for longer work. They've always shot well for me.

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jjfuller1 09-23-2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jpattersonnh (Post 584617)
Carter, if you ever want to learn about shooting, hunting, PM me. Your way off base. I'd be happy to take you out and show you the difference. I'd take my 9.3x57 w/ a 286gr at 2000fps over your 3000fps 117gr on a charging or grazing pig anyday. What you are equating this to is a Porshe at 100mph hitting a tree, will it knock the tree down, maybe, but the car will stop. Now hit the same tree w/ a Semi tractor at 60 mph, it may be damaged, but it is still moving forward after the hit. The 30.30 is a 1960's caddy!

interesting analogy. gave me a giggle. but none the less. true. with good placement the 170's should do good work


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