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Old 12-03-2009, 02:04 AM   #1
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Im lookin for a hunting rifle for the wife she has shot my 6mm and ays it has to much kick. That was with a 150gr bullet or so. But im worried about going with a smaller caliber because she hasn't had much experience shooting. And i dont want her to just wound the deer. Also we are young and broke so i dont have much money to spend.
I would apreciate any advice.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:54 AM   #2
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I would say go with the 7mm-08 has good knock down power with out as much kick in my opinion. The best one I shot was a Remington model 7 youth model. well hope that helps

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Old 12-03-2009, 03:08 AM   #3
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If you are referring to the 6mm Remington, then another option for you may be a 243 Winchester with 100 grain bullets, here in Alaska I have used the 243 win with good success, shot placement, reduced ranges are key. Another option to consider is the 257 Roberts.

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wait There is not a 150gr 6mm bullet. There are 105 gr bullets.

The 2 cartridges I would tell you to get would be a 243 or a 257 roberts. I hate them but maybe look at a Browning with the BOSS muzzle break. A muzzle break would make it much louder but reduce recoil a lot.

Have you thought about getting her an AR in 243 or 6.8spc The AR will soak up much of the recoil they may take some getting used to but it would give her a soft recoiling rifle that is good enough to hunt deer and varmints with.



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Im lookin for a hunting rifle for the wife she has shot my 6mm and ays it has to much kick. That was with a 150gr bullet or so. But im worried about going with a smaller caliber because she hasn't had much experience shooting. And i dont want her to just wound the deer. Also we are young and broke so i dont have much money to spend.
I would apreciate any advice.
Thank you.
Texas deer are not armor plated or very big for that matter. Not wounding a deer has more to do with the experience of the shooter and shot placement than ammo/caliber. Whatever rifle caliber you buy she needs to practice until she can reliably shoot the deer vitals from all field shooting positions and when she goes hunting she should not take any shots that she is not 100% sure she can make.

If those conditions are met you can safely take deer given the classic broadside shot with a .223 with properly constructed bullets if she is willing to keep the shots to 150 yards or less and take no quartering shots where the bullet would have to travel a substantial part of the body or go through heavy bone to get to the heart/lungs.

.223 ammo is plentiful and cheap so practice should not be an issue, and there are good deer loads from Federal, Hornady and others in the market. Don' know if they have any Dick's Sporting Goods stores in your area but they were clearing out Remington SPS 700 WITH a scope combos for $499 last week.
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thanks for all the helpfull info and input its really going to help alot


ps and it was 105 gr typing error

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a 243 with a 75 gr bullet will have a little less recoil . there are lesser calibers with a little less recoil but not in an economy gun/cartridge combo .

here is a c-p on recoil info


Cartridge- (Wb@MV)- Rifle Weight- Recoil energy -Recoil velocity
.17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5 0.2 n/a
.204 Ruger (33 at 4225) 8.5 2.6 4.4
.22 LR (40 at 1165) 4.0 0.2 n/a
.22 WMR (40 at 1910) 6.75 0.4 n/a
.22 Hornet (45 at 2800) 7.5 1.3 3.3
.222 Rem. (50 at 3200) 7.5 3.0 5.1
.223 Rem. (55 at 3200) 8.0 3.2 5.1
.223 Rem. (62 at 3025) 7.0 3.9 6.0
.22-250 Rem. (55 at 3600) 8.5 4.7 6.0
.220 Swift (55 at 3800) 8.5 5.3 6.4
.223 WSSM (55 at 3850) 7.5 6.4 7.4
.243 Win. (75 at 3400) 8.5 7.2 7.4
.243 Win. (100 at 2960) 7.5 8.8 8.7
6mm Rem. (100 at 3100) 8.0 10.0 9.0
.243 WSSM (100 at 3100) 7.5 10.1 9.3
.240 Wby. Mag. (100 at 3406) 8.0 17.9 n/a
.25-35 Win. (117 at 2230) 6.5 7.0 8.3
.250 Savage (100 at 2900) 7.5 7.8 8.2
.257 Roberts (120 at 2800) 8.0 10.7 9.3
.25 WSSM (120 at 2990) 7.25 13.8 11.1
.25-06 Rem. (120 at 3000) 8.0 12.5 10.0
.257 Wby. Mag. (120 at 3300) 9.25 15.1 10.3
6.5x55 Swede (140 at 2650) 9.0 10.6 8.7
.260 Rem. (120 at 2860) 7.5 13.0 10.6
6.5mm-284 Norma (140 at 2920) 8.0 14.7 10.9
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (120 at 3100) 8.0 13.1 10.3
6.5x68 S (140 at 2990) 8.5 16.8 11.3
.264 Win. Mag. (140 at 3200) 8.5 19.2 12.1
6.8mm Rem. SPC (115 at 2625) 7.5 8.0 8.3
.270 Win. (130 at 3140) 8.0 16.5 n/a
.270 Win. (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.0 11.7
.270 WSM (150 at 3000) 8.0 18.9 12.3
.270 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3000) 9.25 17.8 11.1
7x57 Mauser (139 at 2500) 8.0 10.5 9.2
7x57 Mauser (139 at 2800) 8.0 14.0 10.6
7mm-08 Rem. (140 at 2860) 8.0 12.6 10.1
7x64 (154 at 2850) 8.0 17.9 n/a
.280 Rem. (140 at 3000) 8.0 17.2 11.8
7mm Rem. SAUM (160 at 2931) 8.0 21.5 13.2
7mm WSM (160 at 3000) 8.0 21.9 13.3
7mm Rem. Mag. (150 at 3100) 8.5 19.2 12.1
7mm Wby. Mag. (140 at 3300) 9.25 19.5 11.7
7mm STW (160 at 3185) 8.5 27.9 14.6
7mm Ultra Mag. (160 at 3200) 8.5 29.4 n/a
.30 Carbine (110 at 1990) 7.0 3.5 5.7
.30-30 Win. (150 at 2400) 7.5 10.6 9.5
.30-30 Win. (170 at 2200) 7.5 11.0 9.7
.300 Sav. (150 at 2630) 7.5 14.8 n/a
.307 Win. (150 at 2600) 7.5 13.7 10.9
.308 Marlin Express (160 at 2660) 8.0 13.4 10.4
.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5 15.8 11.7
.308 Win. (180 at 2610) 8.0 17.5 11.9
.30-06 Spfd. (150 at 2910) 8.0 17.6 11.9
.30-06 Spfd. (180 at 2700) 8.0 20.3 12.8
.300 Rem. SAUM (180 at 2960) 8.25 23.5 13.6
.300 WSM (180 at 2970) 8.25 23.8 13.6
.300 Win. Mag. (180 at 2960) 8.5 25.9 14.0
.300 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3400) 9.25 24.6 13.1
.300 Ultra Mag. (180 at 3230) 8.5 32.8 15.8
7.62x39 Soviet (125 at 2350) 7.0 6.9 8.0
7.62x54R Russian (174 at 2600) 9.0 15.0 10.4
.303 British (180 at 2420) 8.0 15.4 11.1
.32 Spec. (170 at 2250) 7.0 12.2 10.6
8x57 Mauser (170 at 2400) 8.0 13.6 10.4
8x57JS Mauser (195 at 2500) 8.0 18.5 12.2
.325 WSM (180 at 3060) 7.5 33.1 16.9
8x68 S (150 at 3300) 8.5 25.3 13.9
8mm Rem. Mag. (200 at 2900) 8.5 32.9 15.8
.338 Marlin Express (200 at 2400) 8.0 16.2 11.4
.338-57 O'Connor (200 at 2400) 8.0 19.2 12.4
.338 Federal (210 at 2630) 8.0 21.9 13.3
.338-06 A-Square (250 at 2500) 8.5 28.2 14.6
.338 Win. Mag. (200 at 2950) 8.5 32.8 15.8
.338 Win. Mag. (250 at 2700) 9.0 33.1 15.4
.340 Wby. Mag. (200 at 3100) 10.0 29.6 13.8
.338 Ultra Mag (250 at 2860) 8.5 43.1 n/a
.357 Mag. (158 at 1650) 7.0 4.7 6.6
.35 Rem. (200 at 2050) 7.5 13.5 10.8
.358 Win. (200 at 2490) 8.0 20.9 13.0
.35 Whelen (200 at 2675) 8.0 22.6 13.5
.350 Rem. Mag. (200 at 2700) 8.5 22.3 13.0
9.3x62 (270 at 2550) 8.5 33.3 n/a
9.3x74R (286 at 2400) 8.25 34.3 16.6
.375 Ruger (270 at 2840) 9.0 41.3 17.2
.375 H&H Mag. (270 at 2690) 9.0 36.1 16.1
.375 Ultra Mag (300 at 2800) 8.75 53.2 n/a
.378 Wby. Mag. (300 at 2900) 10.25 71.1 n/a
.405 Win. (300 at 2200) 8.0 30.6 15.7
.416 Rem. Mag. (400 at 2400) 10.0 52.9 18.5
.416 Rigby (400 at 2400) 10.0 58.1 19.3
.44 Rem. Mag. (240 at 1760) 7.5 11.2 9.8
.444 Marlin (240 at 2400) 7.5 23.3 14.2
.45 Colt (255 at 1100) 8.0 4.0 5.6
.450 Marlin (350 at 2000) 7.0 37.2 18.5
.45-70 (300 at 1800) 7.0 23.9 14.8
.45-70 (405 at 1330) 7.5 18.7 12.7
.458 Win. Mag. (500 at 2100) 9.0 62.3 21.1
.458 Lott (500 at 2300) 10.0 70.4 21.3
.460 Wby. Mag. (500 at 2600) 11.25 99.6 n/a
.470 N.E. (500 at 2150) 11.0 69.3 20.1
.50 BMG (647 at 2710) 30.0 70.0 12.3
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:54 PM   #8
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I have a Browning A bolt in .25 WSSM, shooting Winchester 115 grain Ballistic Silvertips, and it makes a great low-recoil deer rifle. The biggest drawback is the lack of ammunition for it - Winchester is the only source unless you do your own reloading. The 25-06 has almost identical ballistics, and is in much greater supply.

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Maybe a .25-06.-a .25-06 has just a bit more knockdown power than a .243 but should be light kickin.

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If she thinks the 6mm kicks too much, perhaps she needs to better learn how to control recoil or maybe she's holding it wrong-ie not having it (Buttplate) firmly in her shoulder. Most of the rifles recommended thus far either recoil the same as the 6mm,or more.

I can see 4 solutions-
#1 install a sims recoil pad on your rifle and help her get used to the very mild recoil of your 6mm.
#2 get her a H&R handi rifle in .223 and use appropriately constructed bullets/ammo intended for deer size game.
#3 have a muzzlebreak installed on your 6mm.
#4 get her a 30-30 and use light bullet loads (150 gr or under).

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