Yup, I put a 180 grain hollow point through both lungs of a deer with my 4095 Hi-Point Carbine and it went barely 50 yards and fell over dead. Take out the lungs with anything and the animal dies. That said, the hydrostatic shock of a more powerful caliber will down an animal faster. Plus most deer hunters also have a chance of a black bear wandering by and you might want a little more power to take one cleanly. There are many instances of getting a long shot also and the pistol calibers and traditional "brush cartridges" just won't cut it. That's where the 270, 308, 30'06 and others come into play.
And, Zodiac, are you for real? That's irresponsible and illegal no matter where you hunt. I also find it hard to believe.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, but evil is not overcome by fleeing from it"
Last edited by jeepejeep; 01-13-2012 at 03:58 AM.