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Old 06-27-2012, 10:01 PM   #21
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Inexpensive caliber that will both shoot well at the range, and can be hunted with... Sure 7.62x54r is a VG choice. Most people find the 91/30, M44, M38 shoot high at 1400 yards, about 8". There is an easy fix. Use a piece of shrink tube. Coat the post w/oil, put the shrink tube on w/about an 1/8" extra and heat it. You can trim for a near perfect 100 yard zero. A 24/47 8x57 Mauser is another good choice. You can still find some surplus ammo and imported metric commercial ammo is still less then U.S made standard cartridges.
http://www.ammoman.com/c/38/8mm-mauser
http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=42&name=8mm
I would be more concerned w/a rifle that feels good the the cartridge itself. .223, not a great whitetail cartridge. I even feel .243 lacks a bit. When you hit 6.5, 260caliber, everything changes. Heavier mass weight makes it easy to anchor medium game. BTW, nothing wrong w/ .257 either, it is not cheap usually.

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I would say .308 or 30-06. Both are available in bulk although you should never use military surplus ammo for hunting. If I were to recommend one of the two I would say 30-06 while it is slightly more expensive (around 2 dollars more for a box of 20) it makes up for it in versatility. It can be shot in bullets ranging from 125-200 grains if hand loading. It also has more velocity than .308. Hope I helped
I have to ask the question why not hunt with the surplus ammo?
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Or you can buy a lever gun in one of the pistol calibers. .357 mag, .44 mag. Cost less then rifle ammo. I have killed plenty of deer with a .357 lever gun. You can't be shooting them at 200 yards, but here in PA 50 yards is where most deer are shot.

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Personally i would recomend the 243. Its a very fun caliber to shoot and is accurate out to 500yards from i have heard. Only shot out to 200 myself

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Btw: .223 is not legal for deer in most jurisdictions, nor ethical.
This ^^^^^^

Ever since the AR-15 craze hit, people have been trying to place the .223 / 5.56 MM cartridge into the deer category. When in reality it is, and always has been a varmint round. I guess they are using the terminology that if it can kill men, it can also kill deer. Which in theory is correct. But also in theory so can a .22 LR, and you don't see people using them for self defense. The Mafia saw fit to do a few people in with them, Sam Giancana being one of them.

As the above poster mentioned it is illegal to hunt deer with a .223 in a great many jurisdictions. There is a very good reason for that. A .308 is all but ideal for deer today. One reason is if you want to shoot cheap practice ammunition, it is avaliable from places like this, for as little as $480.00 a thousand. That's only .48 cents a round.

http://www.unammo.com/

Good, accurate controlled expanding hunting ammunition is somewhat more, but very affordable. The .308 is also one of the most accurate rounds avaliable, and can be reloaded easily and inexpensively. The .308 is avaliable in most any action, style, and barrel length you could possibly imagine. Semi auto, bolt, lever, and pump actions are all avaliable.

If you like the AR platform, as many do, the .308 is avaliable in many different style AR type rifles in just as many price ranges. This way you have the range, power, and hard hitting advantages of the .308 cartridge, in a user friendly, easy to clean semi auto rifle, that is capable of good, long range accuracy. That's a pretty hard combination to beat.
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