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Old 08-21-2011, 01:48 AM   #21
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Dont get me wrong, I like the Socoms, but I'm just not in the market for a black or synthetic gun at the moment. Knowing me that'll be after my Remington 700 build I like the feel of the wood on the M1A and maybe even put a couple custom touches on it. That's a big maybe though.

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Dont get me wrong, I like the Socoms, but I'm just not in the market for a black or synthetic gun at the moment. Knowing me that'll be after my Remington 700 build I like the feel of the wood on the M1A and maybe even put a couple custom touches on it. That's a big maybe though.
Well, you can stick a Socom in a wood stock.
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Well, you can stick a Socom in a wood stock.
I know, but if I had the choice I'd rather bed the stock of the Scout rather than pay extra for a second stock for the Socom. I'll looking REAL carefully at the National Match. I wish I could find one to put my hands on so I could compare it to the Scout and Super Match.

By the way, thanks for all the info. It's making my choices so much more clear than if I were doing it on my own.
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I know, but if I had the choice I'd rather bed the stock of the Scout rather than pay extra for a second stock for the Socom. I'll looking REAL carefully at the National Match. I wish I could find one to put my hands on so I could compare it to the Scout and Super Match.

By the way, thanks for all the info. It's making my choices so much more clear than if I were doing it on my own.
You can sell a synthetic stock for almost as much as you can get a good Boyd's walnut.
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I bought a service grade M1A in 94 also had to sell it in 03 needed the money bad took in the shorts money wise. I want another along with another Colt H-Bar and a tricked out Government model. And some other toys.
I loved my M1A wished I could have kept her.
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Ok...problem guys. Remember that condition I mentioned? Yeah its not just one rifle...its anything match grade. So the Super Match and National Match I'm pretty sure I'm SOL. I'm gonna double check, just in case someone is spouting rumors.
The grey area is the match barrels, like on the Loaded with the Stainless Steel barrel. So I've had to step down to that one, and I may have to step down to a carbon steel barrel. Not that I'm complaining, it just kinda sucks that the condition wasnt made clear ahead of time.
If worse come to worse, I'll get the Scout Squad and do all the upgrades myself.

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Ruzai,

I still think your best bet is the Springfield National Match with the Standard National Match Barrel. It will shoot up to 1000 yards. You can't get much better accuracy than that! Also when you get some more $$$ together I got my Scope Mount from Fulton Armory. You can call and ask for Clint if you have any questions regarding the mount. On mine, all I needed to do is remove my stripper clip guide since the mount uses that area also for rigidity. It is not any task at all, so do not worry about that! It is in the instructions and takes all of a minute to remove it. But the mount is Rock Solid and that is what you want! I had tried another mount prior and wasted my money. Got what I paid for "Not Much" since I replaced it with the good one. It is one shooting rifle and by the way they are also Glass Bedded from the factory. You will not go wrong with the Springfield NM rifle. And the way I look at it anything worth having is worth waiting for! Impatience will result in an unhappy shooter and usually turns around costing us much more in the end, since we usually sell what we are not satisfied with and end up buying what we wanted in the first place! *True or False? Let us know when you get your new rifle and also some range reports. 400 Yards will be a piece of cake!

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I still think your best bet is the Springfield National Match with the Standard National Match Barrel. It will shoot up to 1000 yards. You can't get much better accuracy than that! Also when you get some more $$$ together I got my Scope Mount from Fulton Armory. You can call and ask for Clint if you have any questions regarding the mount. On mine, all I needed to do is remove my stripper clip guide since the mount uses that area also for rigidity. It is not any task at all, so do not worry about that! It is in the instructions and takes all of a minute to remove it. But the mount is Rock Solid and that is what you want! I had tried another mount prior and wasted my money. Got what I paid for "Not Much" since I replaced it with the good one. It is one shooting rifle and by the way they are also Glass Bedded from the factory. You will not go wrong with the Springfield NM rifle. And the way I look at it anything worth having is worth waiting for! Impatience will result in an unhappy shooter and usually turns around costing us much more in the end, since we usually sell what we are not satisfied with and end up buying what we wanted in the first place! *True or False? Let us know when you get your new rifle and also some range reports. 400 Yards will be a piece of cake!

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The problem with mounting scopes on commercial M14s, especially SAI M1As, is the receivers being out of spec. Some mounts work, and some don't, without fitting.

The Fulton/Sadlak/Smith Enterprise/Brookfield mounts are excellent, but if your receiver is out of spec, they need custom fitting. Same for the ARMS/GDI and all of the decent mounts on the market. The Bassett Machine is the only one that works on out of spec receivers almost 100% of the time. It is also the cheapest.
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I can kind of see why M14s eat scopes. The mounting length on the scope mounts are so short, all the pressure and force from recoil is concentrated near the turrets of the scopes. Of course, that's just my theory. So with a 56mm total diameter occular bell on a scope would anyone know which of the BM scope mounts to get? The normal height or would the low work?

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The problem with mounting scopes on commercial M14s, especially SAI M1As, is the receivers being out of spec. Some mounts work, and some don't, without fitting.

The Fulton/Sadlak/Smith Enterprise/Brookfield mounts are excellent, but if your receiver is out of spec, they need custom fitting. Same for the ARMS/GDI and all of the decent mounts on the market. The Bassett Machine is the only one that works on out of spec receivers almost 100% of the time. It is also the cheapest.
Ive got a basset. Ive got to torque it way beyound their specs or it shoots itself loose in a few shots. I gave up trying to scope my m1a
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