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Old 03-23-2012, 04:35 AM   #11
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I can't seem to get much accuracy at 200 yards; could be my fault but I find anything past 150 yards pretty frustrating with the 17hmr.
I've seen people shoot and hit 22LR at 400 and 500 yards. I'm not saying its normal, practical, or easy to do so, but 17HMR should be able to reach out to 300 yards. You gotta remember that even if you do everything perfect, your groups will open up the further out you go. But with a good rifle and ammo, 4" groups at 200 yards should be accomplish-able. I'm not familiar with the .17HMR cartridge, but I don't see why it couldn't be done.
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I've seen people shoot and hit 22LR at 400 and 500 yards. I'm not saying its normal, practical, or easy to do so, but 17HMR should be able to reach out to 300 yards. You gotta remember that even if you do everything perfect, your groups will open up the further out you go. But with a good rifle and ammo, 4" groups at 200 yards should be accomplish-able. I'm not familiar with the .17HMR cartridge, but I don't see why it couldn't be done.
Everything you write is correct, I just don't want to deal with a 9 inch drop. Nothing I have is flat out to 200 yards.
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Nothing is flat at 200 yards.

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I zero my 308 at 200 yards. I have a Redfield 3-9x40 with accurange reticle on it. It takes out the hold over guess work.

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I'd say you are going the right route by looking for a little bigger cartridge if you want to start shooting 200 or farther, like has been stated above a 22 or 17 will absolutely go 200 yards but it can't do it as accurately as a bigger gun especially when you throw in other factors such as wind, the 22 and 17 start to drastically slow down at those long ranges which causes problems from the wind with those little bullets. I like to be able to hit what I'm shooting at consistently and that is far easier at long range with a larger gun, I'd say 223 is a good choice, I like 22-250 as well which will give you more speed but shells aren't quite as common as the 223. You will also need the bigger gun if there's any prospect of a hunt in your future, you won't want to be shooting at an animal 200 yards away with the rimfire rifles.

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Nothing is flat at 200 yards.
Of course, nothing is capable of being absolutely flat unless is self-propelled. For the purposes of this discussion though, let us assume I'm talking about calibers that are flat relative to other calibers. The .243 and 22-250 would be good choices, and if I hunted more I'd probably just pick up the marlin x7 in 243, 308, 22 250, or 30-06. As it is, I settled on the 223 because I don't hunt often or reload. I haven't seen the marlin x7 in 223 anywhere online. I did see in the catalog that it is coming. I'll ask my lgs if they can get it yet.
I really do like those cz 527s, I just wish they were a little cheaper. If they were the price of the x7s I'd buy three of them.
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I just bought a Weatherby Vanguard last week in .223Rem. Most of that model are with the plastic stock, but there is one in walnut which I bought. I mounted a Leupold VX 1 4-9x40 & took it to the range for the first time this afternoon. After I got it sighted in, I was consistantly shooting out the X ring at 100 yards. I know that's not a long distance for this rifle, & I plan to take it out to 200 yards next week. Anyway, this is one sweet rifle with a $600 price tag on it from my local gun shop. I looked at the CZ's & they came in on a very close 2nd place, but price settled the argument for me.

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I just bought a Weatherby Vanguard last week in .223Rem. Most of that model are with the plastic stock, but there is one in walnut which I bought. I mounted a Leupold VX 1 4-9x40 & took it to the range for the first time this afternoon. After I got it sighted in, I was consistantly shooting out the X ring at 100 yards. I know that's not a long distance for this rifle, & I plan to take it out to 200 yards next week. Anyway, this is one sweet rifle with a $600 price tag on it from my local gun shop. I looked at the CZ's & they came in on a very close 2nd place, but price settled the argument for me.
I was going to suggest a Howa 1500 but it's pretty much the same as the weatherby vanguard. You get a great gun for a really good price.
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You've never tried your 22 rifles or 17 at 200 yards? Every 22 rifle I've shot at 200 yards did well, 3moa at the most. I would think one of yours would be close to MOA accurate. I've only shot a 17 at 150, but would think it would do 200 as well if not better than a 22.

Your 357 should do 200 yards as well.
.17 hmr @199 works IF the wind dont blow
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Of course, nothing is capable of being absolutely flat unless is self-propelled. For the purposes of this discussion though, let us assume I'm talking about calibers that are flat relative to other calibers. The .243 and 22-250 would be good choices, and if I hunted more I'd probably just pick up the marlin x7 in 243, 308, 22 250, or 30-06. As it is, I settled on the 223 because I don't hunt often or reload. I haven't seen the marlin x7 in 223 anywhere online. I did see in the catalog that it is coming. I'll ask my lgs if they can get it yet.
I really do like those cz 527s, I just wish they were a little cheaper. If they were the price of the x7s I'd buy three of them.
Of those calibers 308 is only 300fps faster than 17HMR. If you really need the speed, .22-250 or .243. You're still going to have ~4" of drop from 100 to 200 yards....
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