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sloejoe 05-25-2010 02:47 AM

Cartridge question
 
Was just wondering if anyone has ever made a .25-308. We all know about the GREAT .30-06 cartridge and also the .25-06 that was developed from sizing the neck down to a .25 caliber. The .308 was also developed from the .30-06 case I believe but has that been taken one step farther & necked down the .308 to a .25? The .30-06 & the .308 are close in performance & so too is the .270-.284- & other cartridges in the "near to same" performance calibers so why not a ".25-08". Would this be wasted quest or do you think it would be accepted by shooters looking for short flat shooting cartridges. I may be Bringing up the rear as this may already exist but I can't think of anything out there in this configuration. Just wondering---that how I got so smart--maybe that was wandering--Hmmmmm
What say ye.



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jpattersonnh 05-25-2010 03:35 AM

6.5 has better ballistics. 6.5x.284 or the 6.5x.06 are better than the .25. .257 Roberts is a great cartridge. The 6.5x55 or 6.5x.06 win every time.

crossfire 05-25-2010 03:46 AM

It exists...and has since the 1950's. It's called the .25 Souper.
25-308

cpttango30 05-25-2010 10:28 AM

Like crossfire said been around since the 50's there are some newer ones out there.

Patterson the only reason the 6.5mm has better ballistics is that the 25 cal has never been given much attention on the long range front. I personally believe that what ever the 6mm and 6.5 mm can do a 25 cal can do even better. All you need is better match bullets. The draw back is there is only 1 commercial bullet for long range shooting Bergers 117gr VLD there are others out there but you're going to be paying for custom bullets.

jpattersonnh 05-25-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cpttango30 (Post 290111)
Like crossfire said been around since the 50's there are some newer ones out there.

Patterson the only reason the 6.5mm has better ballistics is that the 25 cal has never been given much attention on the long range front. I personally believe that what ever the 6mm and 6.5 mm can do a 25 cal can do even better. All you need is better match bullets. The draw back is there is only 1 commercial bullet for long range shooting Bergers 117gr VLD there are others out there but you're going to be paying for custom bullets.

You are correct in the fact that there are so few choices for .25 bullets. I always tend to look at a cartridge from a hunting perspective 1st. Distance is a relative factor to a hunting a particular game in my book, the .25 just never was my 1st choice. I use to punch allot of paper and ping silhouettes in the past, but never saw a .25 on the line.

c3shooter 05-25-2010 02:31 PM

While not a .25, the .243 is so close as to make no (IMHO) real difference- and that is a .308 necked down. And a LOT easier to find ammo and dies for.

Dcomf 05-25-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloejoe (Post 290026)
The .308 was also developed from the .30-06 case

The 308 was developed from the 300 Savage, not the 06. The military designated it the T65.

greydog 05-25-2010 05:29 PM

And the 300 Savage started out as a shortened, reformed, 30/06 which was in turn derived from the various Mauser cartridges. You are right though, the military first tested the 300 Savage then made what changes they felt were advisable to create the 308.
When you come right down to it, I suppose all rimless cartridges with the .470" (roughly) head size can be traced back to the 8x57.
In the end, the 25 Souper, just like the 260, the 270/08, and the 7mm-08, is a cartridge which performs much like those cartridges based on the 57mm case but in a slightly shorter package. GD

sloejoe 05-28-2010 03:16 AM

RE:Cartridge Question
 
Wow Guys!!! What a wonderful Barrel of info--I guess you know you just shot my ability to dream up another cartridge--I guess my "cartridge license" is voided. I'll start work on necking up a .410 to 12ga. I Know that has never been done. Heeeeeee-Heeeeee. Good job all of you & thanks again.
Still wondering--Hmmmmmmm




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c3shooter 05-28-2010 02:49 PM

Well, if you took an ALL BRASS 12 guage shell, and necked it down to a BB.......:p


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