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Hot Sauce NARC 04-20-2010 03:17 PM

cant seem to get it right
Ive always had trouble getting my guns spotless but its really starting to piss me off. I just cant seem to get my barrels clean no matter how hard i work at it. Ill only shoot 30 or so rounds and then run solvent laden patched down the bore and then let soak for a couple hours. Followed by extensive brushing with a bronze brush, and then more solvent patches. No matter how many times i repeat this process patches still come out slightly dirty especially after brushing. Using Hoppes copper/lead solvent.

CA357 04-20-2010 03:30 PM

Try Hoppe's Bore Gel. Let it sit in there for an hour, then brush and patch. Then use regular bore cleaner.

You may also want to try Sweets. It removes copper fouling.

Bore Gel, than Sweets, than regular bore cleaner. If that doesn't do it, send it to me. You shouldn't have to own a dirty gun. ;)

stalkingbear 04-20-2010 08:10 PM

Check out the Outers Foul Out III. It electroplates the rod with the fouling overnight. Outers Foul Out 3 Bore Cleaning System - MidwayUSA It'll clean MUCH better than scrubbing it.

FCross7 04-20-2010 11:40 PM

I've been having the same problem with my AR-10. I can clean and clean and clean, yet there always seems to be some copper fouling in it. Once I get some money Ill have to give that outers foul out a try.


M14sRock 04-21-2010 02:20 AM

I start off with Kroil. Swab it in and let it soak over night. Run wet patches through til they come out clean. Wipe it out with a dry patch. Kroil seeps under the fouling and loosens it up.

Then it gets Shooters choice. Patches only, no brush. Let it soak for 10 min and wipe it out. Repeat with wet patches til mostly clean.

Then it gets Hoppes Elite Gel. Same story.

Repeat with Blue Wonder Gel. Same story.

Repeat with Barnes CR (or Sweets). Same story.

I always finish up with Kroil to remove any residue.

The Bench Rest guys out here only use Kroil and patches. They let it soak overnight and swab it out. They keep total round counts through their bbls and say this keeps them shooting great, and they last twice as long as a barrel that is brushed.

canebrake 04-21-2010 02:37 AM

Hot, you using a jag?

Hot Sauce NARC 04-21-2010 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by canebrake (Post 273354)
Hot, you using a jag?

by jag i assume u mean the pointy rigged deal that pushes the patch through the bore........and yes i am?

cpttango30 04-21-2010 10:45 AM

My 2 match grade ss barrels don't get brushed.

If you are using a potent copper solvent like sweets the copper your getting out may be some off the brush.

I like to use the foaming bore cleaner. It works great. I fill the bore and wait 15 minutes swap out wit hoppes #9 patch then a few dry patches to make sure I got all the hoppes out then I repeat till I get clean patches it may take 2 or 3 times max.

Posit 04-21-2010 10:51 AM

If you really think its still dirty, use some JB bore paste. It will come out of the barrel dirty every time you use it, because that's what it does... its a super mild abrasive... but it will remove what's in there.

Normally you need to clean with two types of products - a fouling remover and a copper remover. Few products are as effective removing both. Personally I patch a fouling solvent until most is gone, then switch to a copper solvent, only use nylon brushes (in my best rifles) or only patches.

Anbother option is to try one of the foaming cleaners... clean the rifle first, put some of the foamy stuff in the barrell, let it sit overnight.

If you're using a brass jag, you will always get some discoloration on your patch because its working on the jag... isn't the jag bright and shiny?

Ruzai 04-22-2010 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by stalkingbear (Post 273045)
Check out the Outers Foul Out III. It electroplates the rod with the fouling overnight. Outers Foul Out 3 Bore Cleaning System - MidwayUSA It'll clean MUCH better than scrubbing it.

That sounds awesome. I'll have to keep this in mind when I'm looking for new cleaning products. I know my Taurus 1911 has bad copper and lead fouling, I can see it but I cant get it out, no matter the scrubbing.
I'd heard Ballistol is a great way to get the copper, lead, zinc and powder residue to loosen up, but I've never tried it. Anybody have any thoughts on Ballistol for cleaning for removing copper and lead fouling?

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