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Old 01-06-2015, 01:17 PM   #1
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I am looking to buy a new rifle. I am looking at either a Ruger Guide Gun in 30-06, a Mini-30, or a Gunsite Scout in 308. Will be for mostly whitetail, but also for those pesky coyotes.

I like the feel of the scout and mini, but no one in the area has a guide gun to grab on to.

Also thinking of getting a 44 mag wheel gun instead. I've got myself so confused on what to do!
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:30 PM   #2
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It's hard to beat a good 30-06, a wide variety of ammunition, a little better than a .308 with the ability to handle heavier bullets,, i.e. the 220 grain loads. If one reloads, your options for varmints to black bear and moose loads are readily attained. If one were only to own one rifle, the 30-06 is to me, an extremely good choice,,, but if you can get all the arms you mentioned,, even better,, good luck in your search.
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Honestly, I don't care for any of those for the purposes you mentioned. IMHO the mini 30 is a great gun but it's not a deer gun. It could work but there's no reason in buying something new that you have to make work. As for the guide gun and scout, I think it's sacrilege to cut down the barrel on a rifle for full size calibers. Both .308 and 30-06 are both great calibers and I have both but when you cut down the barrel you take away a lot of their velocity which is in part what makes them so versatile.

For coyote and whitetails I would suggest you start looking for a good standard bolt action in .243 or 7mm-08. If you're distances are always going to be short then maybe a lever gun?

Just my .02
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Honestly, I don't care for any of those for the purposes you mentioned. IMHO the mini 30 is a great gun but it's not a deer gun. It could work but there's no reason in buying something new that you have to make work. As for the guide gun and scout, I think it's sacrilege to cut down the barrel on a rifle for full size calibers. Both .308 and 30-06 are both great calibers and I have both but when you cut down the barrel you take away a lot of their velocity which is in part what makes them so versatile.

For coyote and whitetails I would suggest you start looking for a good standard bolt action in .243 or 7mm-08. If you're distances are always going to be short then maybe a lever gun?

Just my .02
ya YMMV I for one highly recommend the guide gun chambered for .30-06 espcially if you hunt in heavy brush and not shooting long range that gun shoots at zero drop at 100 yards
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For only one gun. Remington 700 in .30-06.
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yup..the 700!
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I like the 700BDL myself but there are many configurations offered and if you would like to call their custom shop, you could come up with any number of things to make it " Your " rifle. They are an excellent choice.
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I like the 700BDL myself but there are many configurations offered and if you would like to call their custom shop, you could come up with any number of things to make it " Your " rifle. They are an excellent choice.
I'd try to find a lightly used older 700 BDL. IMO Remington quality jas dropped in the last decade.
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Honestly, I don't care for any of those for the purposes you mentioned. IMHO the mini 30 is a great gun but it's not a deer gun. It could work but there's no reason in buying something new that you have to make work. As for the guide gun and scout, I think it's sacrilege to cut down the barrel on a rifle for full size calibers. Both .308 and 30-06 are both great calibers and I have both but when you cut down the barrel you take away a lot of their velocity which is in part what makes them so versatile.

For coyote and whitetails I would suggest you start looking for a good standard bolt action in .243 or 7mm-08. If you're distances are always going to be short then maybe a lever gun?

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Not as much as you would think. If your shooting deer at 600+ yards it might make a difference. A short light rifle is ideal for whitetail where shots are often less than or right at 100 and seldom over 200 yards.

Ive gone to shorter barrels on my rifles as i dont need to nor will i ever really be shooting 700+ yards. Your typical rem700 or win70 or ruger m77 action isnt really capable of the accuracy needed at yardage over 600 nor are the optics found on such guns able to do that with pinpoint accuracy needed to ethically take deer.

Im not seeing a real need for a barrel over 16-18" on a whitetail rifle.

Any of the ones mentioned minus the mini30 are good deer rifles. I leave out the mini because your limited to 100 or less yards as the x39 round is more of a dog on deer past that than a 223 in my opinion. It loses its chow and has a horrid ballistic arc much further than that. If your going to be shooting 100-150 the mini30 would be fine but your really limiting yourself
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I was just at Wally World & they still have a bunch of .30-06 on the shelf & discounted too !.............
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