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Old 02-18-2014, 12:11 PM   #21
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The problem with sandpaper is that it sheds the grit very easy. Emery cloth would be better.

Axx has it right though just use some lapping compound and the bolt or Wheeler Engineering tool offered at midwayusa.com.

Also like axx said you MUST clean this gun like you have never cleaned a gun before.
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I wouldn't. Nothing good comes of loosening up a ar15 bolt.

You must be extremely careful using lapping compound to do this stuff. The trigger assembly should be no where near the rifle and it should not be used on locking lugs at all. Get a bit of it on a sear and you pretty much instantly have a very unsafe condition.

Lap locking lugs and the bolt will be loose increasing head space to possibly dangerous conditions.
While I do agree with your AR comment. If you lap the lugs so much that they created a headspace issue you're an idiot that shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

I have lapped the lugs on at least 50 rifles that I have owned. Like Brylcreem says "A little dab'll do ya."
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I would rub the rough area once with steel wool and shoot the gun. Most of the time everything will smooth out on a new gun by cycling the action and shooting the gun.

I wouldn't buy a rifle that was so rough I needed lapping compounds or power tools to make it work smoothly, so I don't have much experience in those areas.

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While I do agree with your AR comment. If you lap the lugs so much that they created a headspace issue....
Yeah, that's what JonM said.... .. So I guess you agree with him on the lugs also.

I'll clean up most all of the lube (e.g. 10/22) and run the action manually until I figure out where the real problem is. It often takes care of it self.

Sandpaper is often recommended (or green scotch brite) for 10/22's I CANT DO IT.
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I wouldnt. Nothing good comes of loosening up a ar15 bolt.

You must be extremely careful using lappimg compound to do this stuff. The trigger assembly should be no where near the rifle and it should not be used on locking lugs at all. Get a bit of it on a sear and you pretty much instantly have a very unsafe condition.

Lap locking lugs and the bolt will be loose increasing head space to possibly dangerous conditions.
did not mean lap, meant polish
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This zombie thread made my day. marlin Man giving gun smithing advice...I miss old Jarrod and his Warbird so.
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This zombie thread made my day. marlin Man giving gun smithing advice...I miss old Jarrod and his Warbird so.
ROFLMAO!!!!

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Steel wool works better. I'd start with lead cloth (very mildly abrasive), nylon wool, or Never Dull (sp?)
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ROFLMAO!!!!

pet mountain lion and the Warbird!
I know---I read some of his old threads---That stuff is better than Gecko 45.

Edit---I think I saw him selling cheap knock off Chinese Ar mags optics etc and the Raleigh Gun Show a year or two back. Little twig of a fellow who claimed to have been in Falugiah (sp). He also had some supposed Afghan tribal knives for sale he claimed to have brought back. I cant promise it was him but the pic I saw of him and those deer he shot at 800 yds I swear it was him.

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Seems like it would be hard to get into the edges of the lug races and other corners with sandpaper. Plus with sandpaper you don't know if you're getting the high points which cause the roughness. I'd coat the bolt with J-B bore cleaner, which is a mild abrasive. Their red "Bright Bore" finishing compound is less abrasive than the tan J-B. Work the bolt a couple hundred times, then remove ALL of the compound by giving the inside of the action a thorough cleaning, including taking the bolt apart into all it's components to ensure all the J-B is removed. A safer but slower method would be to slather the bolt in a good lube like Break Free CLP and sit down and watch a movie or two and work the bolt several hundred more times. I just think sandpaper would be removing material you don't want to remove and not getting the material you want to remove.
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