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oldcrow there is a heck of a difference in hitting body size target hopefully at 1200 to 2200 yards and shooting sub 2" groups at 1000 yards and be able to put a sting together to make the scope needed to place well. That is what it takes today to win in a match.

Wake up and know that guys are not winning national championships shooting maga monster cartidges atleast not in rifles you can carry around. Its being done with short and short fat 30's, 7mm's, 6.5's and 6mm not the 33 cals or bigger unless your trill is shooting a 70lb bench gun. Thats were the 33 cals live big even them most are lesser wildacts. Most if not all of the rifles used for snipers or good rifles but not outstanding as 1/4" moa rifles. How well do you think the average quality shooter will do with under 17lb 338 luppy fireing ,what, 10 or more spotter rounds and then 20 match rounds in 30 minutes.

Do a bit of reseaerch and find that at 1000 yards there are more than a few small cartidge that can shoot along side the 338LP out to a 1000 yards and the so very common 7mm RM shooting a 180gr berger vld is just as flat and holds wind drift as well as a 338lm useing the 300gr smk that is if you can get those bullets. You still have to know what your doing there old crow as far as drop and drift is . Not the same as killing people at 2000 yards but if shooting paper out to a 1000 yards what makes more sense now.