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Question, at what velocity does a 6.5 start burning the barrel? I don't mind a little speed, but I don't want to invest several hundred dollars in a barrel that will be shot out in only a few thousand rounds.

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the 6.5-06 and the 6.5-06 A-Square are the same cartridge. A-Square just got it standardized through SAAMI in 1997. also i do stand corrected. as A-Square does offer a rifle factory chambered in 6.5-06. but are these factory rifles or custom rifles? there's a good question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5-06_A-Square

http://a-squareco.com/Rifles.html
That makes a little more sense. I'm guessing those rifles are mostly customs. Especially at the price they list them at.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/A-Square-Hamilcar-rifle-in-6-5-06-A-Square-as-new.cfm?gun_id=100354889

http://www.gunsinternational.com/A-Square-Hannibal-416-Rem-Mag.cfm?gun_id=100333926

http://a-squareco.com/Rifle_Price_List.html
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Question, at what velocity does a 6.5 start burning the barrel? I don't mind a little speed, but I don't want to invest several hundred dollars in a barrel that will be shot out in only a few thousand rounds.
from what i understand, the 6.5-06 is a bit more forgiving in eroding the barrels than some of the other faster rounds. we might have to some more research into this and find out for sure. how hot and the type of powder will also be key factors in the rate of barrel erosion. slower powders are better from what i have read and led to believe in reducing the barrel erosion rate.

but even so, a few thousand rounds is still a lot of shooting! lots of benchrest and serious competition target shooters consider the barrel a wear item, just like tires and brakes on a vehicle. most hunters will likely never shoot out a barrel in their lifetime. even if the barrel had a lifespan of say 4000 shots and the average hunter shot about 100 rounds a year, it would take him about 40 years to effectively shoot out the barrel. now the average target shooter may achieve that in say 1-3 years! that's about 1300-4000 per year of shooting.
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i will hazard a guess they are more custom than factory. but as far as i know, no one like Remington, Winchester, Ruger or any others have offered a rifle factory chambered in 6.5-06 that i know of.

ballistics chart from A-Square.

http://a-squareco.com/Ballistics_Chart.html
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REally trigger pull doesn't affect my accuracy a whole lot. I have shot so many less than pristine rifles that I can adapt to almost anything. After a few shots I know how much pressure is required to make the gun go bang. I just put a little pressure on the trigger aim, put a little more pressure and bang!

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REally trigger pull doesn't affect my accuracy a whole lot. I have shot so many less than pristine rifles that I can adapt to almost anything. After a few shots I know how much pressure is required to make the gun go bang. I just put a little pressure on the trigger aim, put a little more pressure and bang!
a person can get use to a heavier trigger pull. but a lighter trigger pull can decrease a lot of human error from moving the POI when fired from jerking the trigger. many benchrest shooters have rifles that have triggers that measure in ozs. not lbs. so that they eliminate much of the human issue from when firing the rifle.
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I only have one rifle for longer range work and that is a Remington 700 7mm x 08. Very accurate. I love it.

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from what i understand, the 6.5-06 is a bit more forgiving in eroding the barrels than some of the other faster rounds. we might have to some more research into this and find out for sure. how hot and the type of powder will also be key factors in the rate of barrel erosion. slower powders are better from what i have read and led to believe in reducing the barrel erosion rate.

but even so, a few thousand rounds is still a lot of shooting! lots of benchrest and serious competition target shooters consider the barrel a wear item, just like tires and brakes on a vehicle. most hunters will likely never shoot out a barrel in their lifetime. even if the barrel had a lifespan of say 4000 shots and the average hunter shot about 100 rounds a year, it would take him about 40 years to effectively shoot out the barrel. now the average target shooter may achieve that in say 1-3 years! that's about 1300-4000 per year of shooting.
I can live with 4000 rounds of barrel life before being replaced. 1000-2000, not so much. I'm not a competition shooter (I'd like to get into it though), so it will take me a few years to wear it out.

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i will hazard a guess they are more custom than factory. but as far as i know, no one like Remington, Winchester, Ruger or any others have offered a rifle factory chambered in 6.5-06 that i know of.

ballistics chart from A-Square.

http://a-squareco.com/Ballistics_Chart.html
About 10" of drop at 400 yards. NICE!

Until you said something, I had never even heard of 6.5-06. I still have yet to see anything chambered in it other then the A Square rifles I posted. I'm surprised it didn't catch on as a factory chambering. I guess 25-06 had a little something to do with that.
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I only have one rifle for longer range work and that is a Remington 700 7mm x 08. Very accurate. I love it.
the 7mm-08 is one wonderful cartridge and one of my favorites. i had wanted one for many years, but many rifles that were chambered in it were our of my budget. when Marlin brought it out in the XS7, i bought one a few years ago. i have not been disappointed in the 7mm-08 yet! that rifle is probably one of my most shot rifles that i own.
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I can live with 4000 rounds of barrel life before being replaced. 1000-2000, not so much. I'm not a competition shooter (I'd like to get into it though), so it will take me a few years to wear it out.



About 10" of drop at 400 yards. NICE!

Until you said something, I had never even heard of 6.5-06. I still have yet to see anything chambered in it other then the A Square rifles I posted. I'm surprised it didn't catch on as a factory chambering. I guess 25-06 had a little something to do with that.
several years ago when i got into researching building a rifle from scratch, my original intention was going to be a 338-06. a very close friend and i were discussing it, and he got me interested i nthe 6.5-06 instead, telling me the 338-06 probably wouldn't meet my expectations for a long range target rifle. that the 338-06 was much more suited to hunting rather than target shooting. so i did more and more reserach into the 6.5-06 and the more i found out about it, the more i was liking it. gentle recoil, very accurate and had the potential for accurate shooting at 1000 yards. that, and it being one of the few true wildcats left, it was looking like the one i wanted to build. so it's the one i setttled on for my rifle.
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