Originally Posted by HomieDontUKnowMe
i have not looked at a 77/22 but i will now. for the people that have custom long range shooters what guns do they start out with then upgrade? Is there any nice long range shooters i could buy and upgrade down the line tomake thema great long ranger shooter?
If your just starting out with rifles, then for accuracy, I'd say go with a bolt action .22. You'll do well with one of these while in your "training phase" of rifle marksmanship. .22 ammo is cheap which should afford you alot of practice time before you jump up to a center fire bolt action. What you learn with a .22 bolt action you'll be able to take most of that with you when you get into centerfire bolt actions.
As far as semi auto rifles go, I've seen several centerfire semi autos group amazingly tight at 100 yards but have never, at least not yet, seen one repeatedly put holes in holes at 100 yards. With a .22 rimfire you will be limited to about 75 yards when it comes to it's limits of accuracy but with practice and trigger time you'll find that at 50 yards your accuracy and grouping can become fairly tight. IMO, it's at this time that you think about upgrading to a centerfire bolt action.
You could get a bolt action centerfire now. Possibly in .308 caliber. Possibly a Remington new or used R-5 or equilivant. Quality target ammo will cost at or near $40.00 a box of 20 for .308 Win.. You'll probably want to change out the stock which will cost a few hunderd dollars, and while your at it you may want to have it bedded as well, add another $100.00 or so dollars. Then there is that trigger that just dont feel right, so you end up upgrading to a Jewell or Timney trigger, add another $200.00 or so. And of course theres that possibly near worn out barrel that you just have to change out, add another $300.00 dollars or so for that.
See where I'm going with this? And I havn't talked about scopes yet
This long range stuff can get very spendy and very quick. So again, IMO start out with a fair to good quality .22 bolt action, acquire your skills, and then carry on to a centerfire when most of what you have to learn has been done cheaply with a .22 rimfire rifle.
Welll there's my 2 cents worth.