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Old 10-07-2010, 12:06 PM   #11
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In my opinion, there is NO "beginner" long range rifle. Long Range shooting is HANDS DOWN the hardest thing I have ever done.
I am going to slightly disagree with you on this point. I know I don't do this often but I am going to this time.

I would consider a Savage F-class and F-TR to be beginner long range rifles. They are expensive to a point $1k + optics. But they are far less than full on custom builds.
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This is an example of a high quality target 22.


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Savage F-class is a really cool gun but being my firstever gun im not dropping no 1k on it. i think im just going to go with the 10/22 and later move on to other thing

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Have you looked at a 77/22 yet?

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i have not looked at a 77/22 but i will now. for the people that have custom long range shooters what guns do they start out with then upgrade? Is there any nice long range shooters i could buy and upgrade down the line tomake thema great long ranger shooter?

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.22lr limits your distance. By upgrading if you intended to say Buy new parts to make it shoot straight, then the 10/22 is for you. I tend to find them a money pit. That is just my humble opinion. There are guys that have dumped hundreds upon hundreds to do the same job as other rifles do out of the box. I have a Marlin 60 that I have had for years with 10's of thousands of bullets down the tube. Still very accurate and 100% reliable. Lousy accuracy leads to frustration. Frustration leads to spending more $. Do some research and buy smart the 1st time. Even the ruger 77/22 has issues. A good friend has a 77/22 in .22Hornet. He has had some serious work done to make it shoot consistantly. The 2 peice bolt is a bad idea. I hope you find what you are looking for. Maybe an old target gun would work well. A Mossberg Model 44 is a great rifle and can be had for $225.00 or less in great shape.

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i have not looked at a 77/22 but i will now. for the people that have custom long range shooters what guns do they start out with then upgrade? Is there any nice long range shooters i could buy and upgrade down the line tomake thema great long ranger shooter?
If your just starting out with rifles, then for accuracy, I'd say go with a bolt action .22. You'll do well with one of these while in your "training phase" of rifle marksmanship. .22 ammo is cheap which should afford you alot of practice time before you jump up to a center fire bolt action. What you learn with a .22 bolt action you'll be able to take most of that with you when you get into centerfire bolt actions.

As far as semi auto rifles go, I've seen several centerfire semi autos group amazingly tight at 100 yards but have never, at least not yet, seen one repeatedly put holes in holes at 100 yards. With a .22 rimfire you will be limited to about 75 yards when it comes to it's limits of accuracy but with practice and trigger time you'll find that at 50 yards your accuracy and grouping can become fairly tight. IMO, it's at this time that you think about upgrading to a centerfire bolt action.

You could get a bolt action centerfire now. Possibly in .308 caliber. Possibly a Remington new or used R-5 or equilivant. Quality target ammo will cost at or near $40.00 a box of 20 for .308 Win.. You'll probably want to change out the stock which will cost a few hunderd dollars, and while your at it you may want to have it bedded as well, add another $100.00 or so dollars. Then there is that trigger that just dont feel right, so you end up upgrading to a Jewell or Timney trigger, add another $200.00 or so. And of course theres that possibly near worn out barrel that you just have to change out, add another $300.00 dollars or so for that.

See where I'm going with this? And I havn't talked about scopes yet

This long range stuff can get very spendy and very quick. So again, IMO start out with a fair to good quality .22 bolt action, acquire your skills, and then carry on to a centerfire when most of what you have to learn has been done cheaply with a .22 rimfire rifle.

Welll there's my 2 cents worth.
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