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Old 01-27-2013, 01:56 AM   #51
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Oh yeah ... Badger ordnance makes really nice stuff. They make a detachable mag conversion too.
K I'm a bit confused on one thing for the base, I have a .30-06 Remington 700 SPS now is that a short or long action? I've read it's long but in places it's said it's in the same field as .308 which is short…so short or long?
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K I'm a bit confused on one thing for the base, I have a .30-06 Remington 700 SPS now is that a short or long action? I've read it's long but in places it's said it's in the same field as .308 which is short…so short or long?
30-06 is a long action. 308 is a short action. long actions have been used before to shoot shells that are considered short action length. but you can't shoot long action length shells in a short action rifle.

could be they are confusing the issue. the 308 is basicly a short 30-06. it was based off the 30-06 case.

metric measurements. 30-06 = 7.62X63mm 308 = 7.62X51mm
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30-06 is a long action. 308 is a short action. long actions have been used before to shoot shells that are considered short action length. but you can't shoot long action length shells in a short action rifle.

could be they are confusing the issue. the 308 is basicly a short 30-06. it was based off the 30-06 case.

metric measurements. 30-06 = 7.62X63mm 308 = 7.62X51mm
I know the metric and the lineage of the case it's just what I've read on rifle stores vs. Wikipedia and yes I know wiki isn't the most accurate to a tee but I'd say 85-90% info on there is sourced and legitimate.

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Really? Again!? Time for some adult-level comedy relief...
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Hello, I am looking for an all-around bada** tactical rifle that I can feel confident in. I want something that can reach out and nail a 1000 yd target but also be able to be taken hunting as well. I know I'm looking at polar opposites here, but that's why I came to the gurus of FTF because you often can find me what I want or damn close to it. I already have a few things in mind. Such as building a rifle around the Rem 700 action, or going with a Savage 110 BA. I was looking at the 300 win mag or 338 Lapua (leaning more to the 300) and my price ceiling is about $2500. Help me please?
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I would like to to stay under 1000
Well heck you can do tons for under 1k! Whenever I build a rifle I always go for something that is capable of doing everything. Remember, Fear not the man with several rifles, fear the man with 1 that knows how to use it... If you're looking for something that is a good all around gun than the 6.5 X 284 Norma is about the best thing out there, it is capable of killing elk at long range yet still isn't over kill for deer and smaller game like the magnums!
But if a magnum is what you want than I would get the 7mm WSM it is simply the best 7 millimeter out there. Reason being The 7 millimeter Remington Magnum is belted and so is the 7 STW. the 7 millimeter Remington ultra mag just simply burns too much powder and your barrel life is horrible.
Plus the 7wsm is a short action which cuts down on weight an gives you a little extra rigidity! ballistically it outperforms pretty much all of the 30 calibers out there except for the 300 Remington ultra mag! The only other 7 millimeter I would consider it is a 7 millimeter Dakota which is a little hard on barrels and is very expensive to shoot...

I recently purchased a Remington short action from a pawn shop for 300 bucks. Then I'm going to rebarrel it to a 6.5 x 284. between the lathe work (125$ fit and chamber) and the barrel cost itself (300$ for a #4 hart) It should come out to 725$ total and I will do the stock work myself! Not bad for a solid 9.5 pound gun (including the scope)!



Here's a savage I did. Believe it or not this is the same stock. It is now fully bedded and fully floated plus now the cheek comb matches me perfectly!


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Actually for a 1000 yard target rifle which is competitave in matches the rifles that I have built for that are just for that purpose and for nothing else.
Very specific. It is the weight thing and even with a biathalon sling, that I mentioned earlier in this thread, to huck these type of rifles around and their inherent ergonomics for extreme long range makes them not good to hunt with when it comes to their weight and dimensions.
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Consider the AR platform. Buy one lower then get uppers in 5.56, 7.62 and whatever else (maybe a .22LR upper) you're interested in. Now you're covered in most any situation you're likely to encounter. All it takes is 2 minutes to go from a .22LR to .308 or even the .50 Beowulf.
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Consider the AR platform. Buy one lower then get uppers in 5.56, 7.62 and whatever else (maybe a .22LR upper) you're interested in. Now you're covered in most any situation you're likely to encounter. All it takes is 2 minutes to go from a .22LR to .308 or even the .50 Beowulf.
So let me get this strait. You can take an AR15 based on the .223/5.56 and put and AR10 .308/7.62x51 upper on it???? Boy, I'm a dummy!
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So let me get this strait. You can take an AR15 based on the .223/5.56 and put and AR10 .308/7.62x51 upper on it???? Boy, I'm a dummy!
I don't own an AR-10 personally so I don't know if you can place an AR-10 upper directly on a mil-spec AR-15/M-16 lower. OTOH, there may be 7.62x51 uppers designed to work with the AR-15 lower. I do have a 7.62x39 upper and it works just fine with my M&P-15's lower. I can only tell you what a Google search came up with...

Known calibers:
.17 Remington
.17/223
.17 HMR
.20 Tactical
.20 Practical
.20 Vartag
.204 Ruger
5.45x39mm (.21 Genghis)
.221 Fireball
.222 Remington
.222 Remington Magnum
.22 LR
.22 WMR
5.56x45mm
.223 Remington Ackley Improved
223 WSSM
243 WSSM
6x45mm
6mm TCU
6x47mm
6mm Whisper
6mm PPC
6mm WOA
6mm BR Remington
6mm Hagar
6mm BRX
6.5mm BR
6.5mm BRX
6.5mm PPC
6.5 WSSM
6.5 WOA
6.5 MPC
6.5 TCU
6.5mm Grendel
6.5mm Whisper
25 WSSM
6.8x43mm SPC
7mm Whisper
7mm TCU
7mm BR
30 BR
.300 Whisper
.30 Herrett Rimless Tactical
7.62x25
7.62x39mm
.30 RAR
300 OSSM
30 Carbine
300 AAC Blackout
7.62x51
.338 Whisper
.338 Spectra
.338 Federal
.338 Lapua
9x19mm
9x21
9x23
.357 Auto
357 Sig
.35 Gremlin
.358 WSSM
40S&W
400 Cor-Bon
41 Action Express
10mm Auto
45 GAP
45 ACP
.410 Shotshell
45 Super
45 Win Mag
450 Bushmaster
.458 SOCOM
.499 LWR - LWRC
.50 Action Express
.50 Beowulf
.50 BMG (single shot)
.50 Whisper
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I don't own an AR-10 personally so I don't know if you can place an AR-10 upper directly on a mil-spec AR-15/M-16 lower. OTOH, there may be 7.62x51 uppers designed to work with the AR-15 lower. I do have a 7.62x39 upper and it works just fine with my M&P-15's lower. I can only tell you what a Google search came up with...

Known calibers:
.17 Remington
.17/223
.17 HMR
.20 Tactical
.20 Practical
.20 Vartag
.204 Ruger
5.45x39mm (.21 Genghis)
.221 Fireball
.222 Remington
.222 Remington Magnum
.22 LR
.22 WMR
5.56x45mm
.223 Remington Ackley Improved
223 WSSM
243 WSSM
6x45mm
6mm TCU
6x47mm
6mm Whisper
6mm PPC
6mm WOA
6mm BR Remington
6mm Hagar
6mm BRX
6.5mm BR
6.5mm BRX
6.5mm PPC
6.5 WSSM
6.5 WOA
6.5 MPC
6.5 TCU
6.5mm Grendel
6.5mm Whisper
25 WSSM
6.8x43mm SPC
7mm Whisper
7mm TCU
7mm BR
30 BR
.300 Whisper
.30 Herrett Rimless Tactical
7.62x25
7.62x39mm
.30 RAR
300 OSSM
30 Carbine
300 AAC Blackout
7.62x51
.338 Whisper
.338 Spectra
.338 Federal
.338 Lapua
9x19mm
9x21
9x23
.357 Auto
357 Sig
.35 Gremlin
.358 WSSM
40S&W
400 Cor-Bon
41 Action Express
10mm Auto
45 GAP
45 ACP
.410 Shotshell
45 Super
45 Win Mag
450 Bushmaster
.458 SOCOM
.499 LWR - LWRC
.50 Action Express
.50 Beowulf
.50 BMG (single shot)
.50 Whisper
.308 rounds won't fit in the magwell of a standard AR lower, pretty sure that's one of the main reasons it won't work.
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