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Old 11-06-2011, 08:38 PM   #161
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Carlsbad, I was issued an M-14. I was a year ahead of your dad and that is all they had at the time I was there, or better stated, that is what my unit had to issue.

I have a question, what is your MOS (mine was 11B40)? The Army, currently has a sniper MOS, is that correct? Did your dad have a sniper MOS? Probably not, as I think even when they attended sniper school in the late 60's they were still 11Bravo. I guess I could look this up, but beings how you are Ranger qualified and assigned, you would know better than any Google source.

......and while I'm here....Thank You and your dad for your service.

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Eagle, my MOS identifier is 11B3VW3. Before I went through SOTIC it was 11B3VB4.

Of course, the 11B is for Infantryman. The 3 is because I am a Staff Sergeant. "V" is for Airborne Ranger, and W3 denotes that I went through the Special Operations Target Interdiction Course.

As far as I know, there isn't a strictly "Sniper" MOS. To attend Sniper School, a soldier must be Ina combat MOS, along with a few other requirements.
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Eagle, my MOS identifier is 11B3VW3. Before I went through SOTIC it was 11B3VB4.

Of course, the 11B is for Infantryman. The 3 is because I am a Staff Sergeant. "V" is for Airborne Ranger, and W3 denotes that I went through the Special Operations Target Interdiction Course.

As far as I know, there isn't a strictly "Sniper" MOS. To attend Sniper School, a soldier must be Ina combat MOS, along with a few other requirements.
Thanks Carlsbad, I appreciate the information, and it may help me in the future with the wannabe's I occasionally run into.

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Thanks Carlsbad, I appreciate the information, and it may help me in the future with the wannabe's I occasionally run into.

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No problem..... If you run into any wannabe's, just tell them that the Stolen Valor Act warrants up to ten years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine if they are impersonating real soldiers or are lying for publicity or personal gains....

There was a guy here in Savannah, GA that was claiming to have been a Major in the Ranger Battalion during the conflict in Somalia. He even used it in his pamphlets for his hunting guide/survival training services.

He's currently sitting in prison; turned out he was aN ENLISTED desk POG in the mid 90's and COULD barely qualify with his M16!
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No problem..... If you run into any wannabe's, just tell them that the Stolen Valor Act warrants up to ten years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine if they are impersonating real soldiers or are lying for publicity or personal gains....

There was a guy here in Savannah, GA that was claiming to have been a Major in the Ranger Battalion during the conflict in Somalia. He even used it in his pamphlets for his hunting guide/survival training services.

He's currently sitting in prison; turned out he was aN ENLISTED desk POG in the mid 90's and COULD barely qualify with his M16!
carlsbad, that was IMO one of the better laws ever passed. men who serve or have served our country should not have to an association with wannabe's and poser's. you got your respect the right way, you earned it. good luck.
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No problem..... If you run into any wannabe's, just tell them that the Stolen Valor Act warrants up to ten years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine if they are impersonating real soldiers or are lying for publicity or personal gains....

There was a guy here in Savannah, GA that was claiming to have been a Major in the Ranger Battalion during the conflict in Somalia. He even used it in his pamphlets for his hunting guide/survival training services.

He's currently sitting in prison; turned out he was aN ENLISTED desk POG in the mid 90's and COULD barely qualify with his M16!
I used to work at a position and run into more Marine Force Recon vets, than probably the total number of Marines!! Also, had a lot of snipers, SF, SOF, Delta, and you name it, oh yea SEALs.....it was a magnet for those types. At the time I was kind of on the hunt and had various ways of letting these guys work themselves into a corner. I don't run into many anymore, but I like to keep my ammo ready for them, just in case.

Damn......again I apologize for hijacking the thread!!

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I have seen my share of wannabes and heard their bullcrap stories. I remember one guy in particular who claimed he was a Ranger and part of the ill-fated mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran in 1979. He sat there and told us all about what happened on this mission. He even claimed that the CIA deliberately blew up one of our own planes to ruin the mission. Normally I would dismiss this as the usual crap but this time I called him on it. When I asked him to specify a few things he responded that he couldn't answer the questions because it was "classified".

I am so glad to see the Stolen Valor Act enacted. Something needs to be in place to prevent frauds from profiting off the acts of real veterans and heroes. I am sure that since 9/11 there are a lot of firefighter wannabes out there also.

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I have seen my share of wannabes and heard their bullcrap stories. I remember one guy in particular who claimed he was a Ranger and part of the ill-fated mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran in 1979. He sat there and told us all about what happened on this mission. He even claimed that the CIA deliberately blew up one of our own planes to ruin the mission. Normally I would dismiss this as the usual crap but this time I called him on it. When I asked him to specify a few things he responded that he couldn't answer the questions because it was "classified".

I am so glad to see the Stolen Valor Act enacted. Something needs to be in place to prevent frauds from profiting off the acts of real veterans and heroes. I am sure that since 9/11 there are a lot of firefighter wannabes out there also.
I thought Helicopters were used? I was in High School at the time, so I may be incorrect, but I don't think I am.
A good topic, but again, how is related to Sniper rifles/calibers?
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I guess I got caught up in the energy that took this thread off course. I will try to be careful to avoid that. I check some of the posts because they can be quite entertaining at times, and at other times not so much. Some of these topics sure do get a lot of mileage. As far as the mission I mentioned they also used at least one C-130, but it doesn't matter in this case because the wannabe was lying.

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I thought Helicopters were used? I was in High School at the time, so I may be incorrect, but I don't think I am.
A good topic, but again, how is related to Sniper rifles/calibers?
....your absolutely right and it's my fault for getting wwaayy off topic. No excuse, I know better!!

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I guess I got caught up in the energy that took this thread off course. I will try to be careful to avoid that. I check some of the posts because they can be quite entertaining at times, and at other times not so much. Some of these topics sure do get a lot of mileage. As far as the mission I mentioned they also used at least one C-130, but it doesn't matter in this case because the wannabe was lying.
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....your absolutely right and it's my fault for getting wwaayy off topic. No excuse, I know better!!

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