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Old 03-18-2012, 01:15 PM   #21
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Any loaded rifle you can get your hands on in that situation will be good. I keep a lot of ammo available for all of my guns because of all the runs on it and reloading components we have already seen. Some of this can be attributed to panic and hysteria but the results are the same, it is hard to get ammo sometimes and could become a permanent situation.

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Anything 22lr, and thousands of rounds.

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It hasn't happened in over 200 years, and we have gone through wars, a great depression, and several recessions, and many protests and demonstrations, so why do you think it will happen now? Some of you speak as though you hope it will happen. Yes I have heard of Syria, and we are no Syria.
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Yes it has and on several occasions.
Bonus Army 1932
Kent State
Draft riots in New York City Civil War.
Ruby Ridge and others.
Recently military action against US Citizens was authorized by congress and signed into law.
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...so why do you think it will happen now? Some of you speak as though you hope it will happen. Yes I have heard of Syria, and we are no Syria.
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U r right, we r no Syria. The guy in charge there is just as bent on being in power and in love w/himself, but at least his mission is not to undermine the country. He is not an idealogue and when he can't be the elite there he'll jump on his Gulfstream 4, get a Syrian Airforce escort to Bahrain, we'll find the balance of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, and he'll live out his life while we fund the next Arab Islamic Brotherhood Spring.

The only thing that keeps cars from head-on collisions are yellow lines of paint, responsibility to do the right thing, and self interest. This Administration has a compass that only points far Left and is intentionally swerving all over the road, playing a non-stop game of Chicken with Congress and The Constitution continuing to expectat that everyone will get out of the way for a while -- but when they don't, won't, or can't he still causes a major friggin' wreck and THAT is the ultimate intent.

Yeah, there'll be some issues...
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Yes it has and on several occasions.
Bonus Army 1932
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Draft riots in New York City Civil War.
Ruby Ridge and others.
Recently military action against US Citizens was authorized by congress and signed into law.

Yeah, those were real collapses in society alright. As a result of all of those we all had to stock pile our guns and ammo and be ready because they were coming to get us and if we didn't fight back they would have gotten us. I'm sure glad I was able to shoot some of those sob's before they got me or I would not be here today.
BTW, can you quote me the law about the "recent military action against US Citizens authorized by congress?" And was it a senate bill or a house bill and can you provide a list of the senators or representatives who signed it? That one must have slipped by me.
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Yeah, those were real collapses in society alright. As a result of all of those we all had to stock pile our guns and ammo and be ready because they were coming to get us and if we didn't fight back they would have gotten us. I'm sure glad I was able to shoot some of those sob's before they got me or I would not be here today.
BTW, can you quote me the law about the "recent military action against US Citizens authorized by congress?" And was it a senate bill or a house bill and can you provide a list of the senators or representatives who signed it? That one must have slipped by me.
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I did not intimate they were collapses in society but there have been incidents where the government has used force against civilians. The stage is currently set where the government can use military force to indefinitely incarcerate civilians which is contrary to the Constitution. See how long it takes to get it through SCOTUS when you dont have access to a lawyer. Aside from the Civil War there has never been this much instability in this country and the liberal government is very fearful of armed civil unrest and just because it has not happened does not mean it cant happen. We have a sitting government that has no respect or use for our Constitution and that is very dangerous.
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Yeah, those were real collapses in society alright. As a result of all of those we all had to stock pile our guns and ammo and be ready because they were coming to get us and if we didn't fight back they would have gotten us. I'm sure glad I was able to shoot some of those sob's before they got me or I would not be here today.
BTW, can you quote me the law about the "recent military action against US Citizens authorized by congress?" And was it a senate bill or a house bill and can you provide a list of the senators or representatives who signed it? That one must have slipped by me.
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Wow, some folks really do act as if they want society to collapse. They give me the impression they think they will solve everything with their rifles and handguns. The doomsday prophets are having a field day.

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As *Cane stated the rifle that you have the most rounds for. My choice without reservation would be the AR-15 Rifle with an ample supply of 5.56 or 223 Rounds. Preloaded in magazines!
There are a lot of reasons for my determination.
1. A good AR-15 Rifle is very reliable
2. The AR Rifle is very accurate
3. It is easy to clean and keep running
4. There are literaly thousands of them out there accounting for those obtainable from Military,Law Enforcement and the civilian population.
5. Parts are readily available
6. Large quantities of ammunition can be stored in 30 round magazines
7. Reloading is the quickest of most all rifles
8. Volume of fire is as good as it gets for semi-auto rifles
9. Wear on the AR is minimal compared to amount of rounds fired
10. An AR pointed at you with a 30 Round Magazine in it is pretty intimidation and should be!

Just some reasons why I would prefer a good AR Rifle or two with me if the SHTF. Also I would have a good pistol 45 ACP or at least 9MM along for the ride.

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Wow, some folks really do act as if they want society to collapse. They give me the impression they think they will solve everything with their rifles and handguns. The doomsday prophets are having a field day.
It's all about what if's, laying down scenarios, and preparing for them. Just because people are talking about what might happen or what's in store for us doesn't neccessarily mean they want it to happen.

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