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Old 09-16-2013, 12:17 AM   #11
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In all fairness, you have to assign a time frame to you list. While the Garand was the finest rifle of WWII, it would be an Albatross on the battlefield today. The O3 Springfield or the Mauser it was copied from would have held the slot for WWI. As far as pistols, there is only one that covers a hundred years of great service. (hint: it ain;t a Glock)
I don't think a time line is needed? Part of what got me on this is that I realized a lot of the best rifles ever made haven't produced for many many years. The workmanship in many of those old rifles can't be touched by anything made today. And if you do find a finally crafted rifle today it will likely cost a fortune and not be your typical off the self production rifle.

And here is my list:

1. Best Rifle Ever - Pre 64 mod 70 Winchester in 7mm Mauser (or maybe 30/06 - I can't decide?)
2. Best Bolt Action Hunting Rifle - Remington M700 (it was the best hunting rifle because it made a really good bolt action affordable for many hunters including me when I first started hunting)
3. Best Semi Auto Hunting Rifle - Browning BAR
4. Best Bolt Action Battle Rifle - Lee Enfield No.4 MkI (it wasn't necesarily the best rifle but the Brits made it the best of both world wars through ingenuity and training)
5. Best Semi Auto Battle Rifle - M14
6. Best Carbine - Winchester M94 (for me this is border line on being a carbine instead of a rifle but I'll put it in the carbine category)
7. Best Battle Carbine - M16 (AR15)
8. Best Lever Action - Savage M99 (it was a coin toss with the 1895 Winchester)
9. Best Pump Action - Remington Model 141
10. Best Single Shot - 1885 Winchester
11. Best Double rifle - Probably something that starts with H&H?
12. Best Sniper Rifle - M24 (I just always loved the M24 - and this should have been #12)


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So here is what I have:

1. Best Rifle Ever
2. Best Bolt Action Hunting Rifle
3. Best Semi Auto Hunting Rifle
4. Best Bolt Action Battle Rifle
5. Best Semi Auto Battle Rifle
6. Best Carbine
7. Best Battle Carbine
8. Best Lever Action
9. Best Pump Action
10. Best Single Shot
11. Best Double rifle (which will cost more than I'll pay for a rifle)
11. Best Sniper Rifle

I know there are some unique categories not included like rifles built like revolvers, but I felt like this list covered most common rifles out there along with their intended use. And this list is for production centerfire rifles only. So am I missing anything obvious?

Well, the thread is billed as the best GUNS ever...where are the machine guns, pistols, shotguns?


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Well, the thread is billed as the best GUNS ever...where are the machine guns, pistols, shotguns?
It is also in the forum for general rifle discussion. I guess you could consider a machine gun a rifle, but I would put that in a different class. And I do have a list for shotguns, remfires, and pistols but I figured this was long enough as is.
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A single shot is what gave a poor Utah Mormon gun smith his first big break. His name was John Moses Browning and the gun was the rifle became the Winchester 1885 single shot. You load one round at a time.
I was being obtuse. A joke, as it were.

Chainfire, while I agree wholeheartedly about the 1911A1,

I have to respectfully disagree about the Garand. I would dread

being in a firefight against a platoon or company of Garands,

regardless of WHAT new doo-dad you handed me. These rifles

can shoot accurately to 600+ yards,with iron sights,

in the right hands, and the

caliber has the punch to get the job done, in massed fire,

to over 1500 yards. They have the penetration to shoot up

light armor, shoot down planes, and change the paradigm

for "safe cover and concealment".

Most the surviving Wehrmacht, by now, have died of old

age, but their testimonies live on, and it's a fact that

the Garand is a powerful and feared weapon.
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1. Best Rifle Ever AIAW
2. Best Bolt Action Hunting Rifle, Sako Tikka
3. Best Semi Auto Hunting Rifle
4. Best Bolt Action Battle Rifle, 1903 Springfield
5. Best Semi Auto Battle Rifle, M1 Garand
6. Best Carbine, Noveske N4 Afghan Monolithic receiver
7. Best Battle Carbine, M4
8. Best Lever Action, Winchester 1886
9. Best Pump Action, Remington 870 Police
10. Best Single Shot, Sharps 1874
11. Best Double rifle (which will cost more than I'll pay for a rifle) Holland and Holland
11. Best Sniper Rifle, AIAW and TRG 22/42

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I was being obtuse. A joke, as it were.

Chainfire, while I agree wholeheartedly about the 1911A1,

I have to respectfully disagree about the Garand. I would dread

being in a firefight against a platoon or company of Garands,

regardless of WHAT new doo-dad you handed me. These rifles

can shoot accurately to 600+ yards,with iron sights,

in the right hands, and the

caliber has the punch to get the job done, in massed fire,

to over 1500 yards. They have the penetration to shoot up

light armor, shoot down planes, and change the paradigm

for "safe cover and concealment".

Most the surviving Wehrmacht, by now, have died of old

age, but their testimonies live on, and it's a fact that

the Garand is a powerful and feared weapon.

This is all very true, but the nature of warfare being mobility, now...Lighter weapons with more ammo that engage at shorter distances are the go-to.

I wouldn't want to have to haul a Garand on long marches or get in and out of a humvee multiple times with it...I would take a G-36 or something like that over it any day...although I would miss the punch of the .30-06.
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I was being obtuse. A joke, as it were.
Sorry, I have trouble with cynicism sometimes.


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