[Muliemaster]

Originally Posted by dks7895

+1 on the Marlin X7

Marlin over the vanguard in a split second way more bang for the buck but thats my thought

[rem870forever]

I don't mind about recoil, I just want to shoot around 500-800 yards

[spittinfire]

Originally Posted by rem870forever

I don't mind about recoil, I just want to shoot around 500-800 yards

What kind of accuracy are you looking for at that range?

If you want something better the minute of deer at 500 yards, you may need to keep saving. Don't get me wrong, I love my Marling KL7 in 30-06 but to ask an entry level rifle with a $200 scope to knock down a quarter at 500 plus yards is a TALL order.

[Muliemaster]

Originally Posted by spittinfire

What kind of accuracy are you looking for at that range?

If you want something better the minute of deer at 500 yards, you may need to keep saving. Don't get me wrong, I love my Marling KL7 in 30-06 but to ask an entry level rifle with a $200 scope to knock down a quarter at 500 plus yards is a TALL order.

Lets say for a second that the x7 cant shoot long range so now look at other rifles that quote r not entry level what makes the x7 any less??? It has all the bells they have dosent it oh yes it does my bad factory entry level guns can all performe in the hands of someone who spends time behind them my x7 is a tack driver period I have a leupold vx3 on it an at 200 off a bench will put 5 shots in 1 inch all day long dosent seem entry level now does it yes I have other high end rifles but why my christensen arms was 10 times in cost an for what it dosent group any better

[rem870forever]

I think I'll stik with the marlin

[spittinfire]

Originally Posted by Muliemaster

Lets say for a second that the x7 cant shoot long range so now look at other rifles that quote r not entry level what makes the x7 any less??? It has all the bells they have dosent it oh yes it does my bad factory entry level guns can all performe in the hands of someone who spends time behind them my x7 is a tack driver period I have a leupold vx3 on it an at 200 off a bench will put 5 shots in 1 inch all day long dosent seem entry level now does it yes I have other high end rifles but why my christensen arms was 10 times in cost an for what it dosent group any better

I agree that typically it has more to do with the shooter then the rifle and my Marlin will group like yours will at 200 yards and while I dont often get to shoot at 200 anymore, at 100 it makes one ragged hole. All I'm saying is that there is a BIG difference between 200 and the 500-800 that the OP mentioned. When you get out to those ranges the game changes dramtically.

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by spittinfire

I agree that typically it has more to do with the shooter then the rifle and my Marlin will group like yours will at 200 yards and while I dont often get to shoot at 200 anymore, at 100 it makes one ragged hole. All I'm saying is that there is a BIG difference between 200 and the 500-800 that the OP mentioned. When you get out to those ranges the game changes dramtically.

i agree that the shooter is the bigger part of the package here. lots of rifles can shoot accurately out of the box, but when getting past 500 yards, i think that most will require a little tuning and accurizing to reach their full potential. but past the 500yrd mark, lots of it also depends on the person pulling the trigger. then there's the reloading thing, tuning ammo to the rifle.

[Muliemaster]

Originally Posted by axxe55

i agree that the shooter is the bigger part of the package here. lots of rifles can shoot accurately out of the box, but when getting past 500 yards, i think that most will require a little tuning and accurizing to reach their full potential. but past the 500yrd mark, lots of it also depends on the person pulling the trigger. then there's the reloading thing, tuning ammo to the rifle.

Hey there axxe55 just finishef a colorado elk an deer hunt my kid smoked a good 5x5 muley I took another good 6x6 bull headed to wyoming on friday for deer elk an antalope

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by rem870forever

I don't mind about recoil, I just want to shoot around 500-800 yards

For that range you might want to save up a little more money
Most of the rifles mentioned are good for mabe 300yds but 800?
You're asking too much out of a $400 rifle-----------Then theres the glass!

[CarlsbadRanger06]

If you want to shoot sub MOA at beyond 500M you're going to have to find some little old widow lady selling off her dead husband's rifles dirt cheap or a similar scenario.

You just can't spend $400 or less and get a long gun to do that.

Keep saving your money bud! You'll get there