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Old 12-21-2009, 03:32 AM   #11
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If it is a gift from a family member, it is legal. Put it in the trunk and take it home.

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Legal and untraceable are not the same thing, just sayin.

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I'm not 100% sure but I was told by a sales person at an outfitters retail store in Pa. that you cannot transfer ownership (whether it be from an individual or a liscensed dealer) of any firearm other than a muzzle loader without an ATF background check at the time of said transfer.

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Old 12-21-2009, 09:43 PM   #14
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Legal and untraceable are not the same thing, just sayin.
Exactly my thoughts. I havent gotten a chance to get to a gun store here in NH to ask though, so I'm just curious, and figured y'all might know

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I'm not 100% sure but I was told by a sales person at an outfitters retail store in Pa. that you cannot transfer ownership (whether it be from an individual or a liscensed dealer) of any firearm other than a muzzle loader without an ATF background check at the time of said transfer.
I dont think this is true in all states...in NV I can sell anyone a rifle and they just take it, but in all my bills of sale i make sure to put that they have stated they are legally able to own a firearm.

The same goes for pistols. Private party pistol sales in NV are easy. Hand you the money, hand em the gun, its their responsibility to get it registered.
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Here's one for you! I bought my new Savage Model 10 from Cabela's in Nevada. I'm and Oregon resident. They sold me the rifle, did the background check and carried it out of the store where I was presented with my purchase to take home.

I know, different; but this is how convoluted our gun laws are and why most people are scared to death they will be arrested under one or more of these statutes.

Please post what you find out!

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I am not a lawyer (Not qualified- Mom & Dad were married) BUT-

The situation as described in the original post is NOT legal, and IS a violation of Federal law. That law governs TRANSFER of ownership. There are two categories of people- licensed (holds a FFL) and unlicensed.

An unlicensed person can transfer a firearm to another unlicensed resident of their own state. They CANNOT transfer to resident of another state.

A licensed person may transfer a rifle or shotgun to a resident of any state (unless their state law prohibits it) and may transfer a handgun to resident of the licensed person's state.

A licensed person can transfer to any other licensed person.

While you can probably put the rifle in your trunk, and drive home, IF the Feds decide to go after you for whatever reason, they have you- and you will not have another gun ever.

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You may not like this answer, but just call ATF and ask them. If it is a bonified gift, I don't see any problem. If you don't want them to get your number use your local payphone, or do that *__ thingy to block your number on outgoing calls.

I recently acquired several guns from a friend when her husband passed away, and "adopted out" several others, there was no paperwork done on any of the weapons or ammo, it was a private collection.

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