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cva209x50 02-19-2014 03:09 AM

Basic 91-30 : keep as is or modernize?
 
I'm currently saving up for my first 91-30. The sporting goods store I plan to by it from usually has anywhere between 5-12 regular mosins and anywhere between 3-5 laminate mosins. They want $200 for the regular mosins and $250 for the laminate ones. They aren't anything special, just the run of the mill, caked in cosmoline, Russian nazi-busters ... that occasionally smell like vodka. Once in a while you might be lucky enough to find one from tula, but most of the time it's just basic, brass, and laminate rifles. I have a 1945 m44 but it's 100% original so I'm not changing anything on it. I can't decide between a Boyd's stock, or an ati stock. Please don't bring up the magpul stock because I'm not putting a stock on a mosin that costs the same as the rifle itself. Any advice on stocks, and other accessories will be appreciated.

P.s. : in addition to recreational target shooting, I plan on using it for coyotes and groundhogs (Indiana has limits on what guns you can use for deer, so I use normal deer guns for coyotes and groundhogs to make up for it).

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locutus 02-19-2014 09:50 PM

Keep it original!

They've already gone from $75 to over $200 in less than 5 years. Remember, they aren't making any more of them and the remaining supply is drying up fast.

And every "shade tree gunsmith" in the country is butchering them to make so-called sporters. Just like they butchered up the old Mausers years ago.

I bought my first Kar 98 Mauser, in excellent plus (almost mint) condition for $15. Today, if you can find one in that condition, they will bring upward of $750.

303tom 02-20-2014 03:20 PM

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That is your chose !...............

vincent 02-20-2014 03:35 PM

You can 'modernize' it while still being able to return it to stock configuration...

It all depends on how much you want to spend...(see 10/22 upgrades)

Now try to find a 1903A3 that hasn't been sporterized permanently...not too many jumping off the shelves these days, which is a shame...

I suspect the Mosin market some years down the road will be a lot like the 1903A3 market now, unaltered versions getting premium prices...

I say go nuts, just make sure you can switch it back to original...:cool:

dteed4094 02-20-2014 05:22 PM

If you plan to modernize it, plan on spending about the same as a low end sporter or decent used dear rifle would cost, unless restocking is all you have in mind.

John_Deer 02-20-2014 05:36 PM

Just buy a rifle like you want the 91/30 to look like. No matter what you do to the 91/30 you still have a $150 rifle. Just spend the money all at once on a decent modern bolt action rifle.

chloeshooter 02-20-2014 05:45 PM

what are you going to use it for?

do you want to have it for your kids/grandkids someday? I'd suggest keep as-is in that case

something fun to shoot? again keep it as-is

you need a rifle to go out and hunt with? go buy a Ruger American, Remington 783 or a Savage for $375 plus a $80 Bushnell Banner scope and you will spend about the same as you would to buy and sporterize your Mosin Nagant (as was already mentioned) and have a MUCH more accurate hunting rifle

like someone said they keep going up in price. $200 for the non-laminate version seems very high, I can still get them for $130

cva209x50 02-21-2014 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by locutus (Post 1510614)
Keep it original!

They've already gone from $75 to over $200 in less than 5 years. Remember, they aren't making any more of them and the remaining supply is drying up fast.

And every "shade tree gunsmith" in the country is butchering them to make so-called sporters. Just like they butchered up the old Mausers years ago.

I bought my first Kar 98 Mauser, in excellent plus (almost mint) condition for $15. Today, if you can find one in that condition, they will bring upward of $750.

I plan on getting it from dunham's (I can pick out the one I want)

Their gun prices are higher than gander mountain's.

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Axxe55 02-21-2014 04:23 AM

as many of these old Russian rifles have been home gunsmithed and bubbafied over the years, the ones that are unmolested and original are going to increase in value one day as there is only a limited amount of them left. case in point look at some of the old military Mausers. an original one can fetch a hefty price.

personally, i'd just enjoy it as is and if you need something more accurate, buy a more modern bolt action. think Ruger American, Remington M783, Marlin X7, Savage Axis and many others that can be bought at a reasonable price.

therewolf 02-21-2014 05:36 AM

These are not rare rifles.

IIRC, over 18 million were made during their

100-year run with various Eastern-Bloc armies.


If you are doing this to save money, please reconsider.

By the time you are done, you could have a new Savage,

Ruger, or Remington, all of which come pre-drilled for scopes.

Consider, if you reload 30.06 for varmints, you can use 100 or

110 grain tips, and get massive flat-shooting punch.


The M44 you have, in original condition, is, IMHO, the top

of the line, in OEM Mosins, for chasing wild boar, and as

a truck gun.

If you decide modernize a 91-30, get the cheapest beater you

can find, but know that when you are done, you will have a

rifle which you may not even be able to sell at a pawn shop.


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