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Jpyle 05-09-2010 03:48 AM

Army to Test ‘Game Changing’ Gun in Combat
 
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You can run but you cannot hide...

ABERDEEN TEST CENTER, Md. -- The Army is set to send its high-tech "counter defilade" weapon to the war zone in the next few months, the first real-world deployment for the much-anticipated XM-25 Individual Airburst Weapon.

Army to Test

gorknoids 05-09-2010 05:44 AM

And people say that songs, paintings, and sculptures are beautiful!
Great concept, but a money-pit. It's exponentially cheaper to use drones or even tactical aircraft heaving Hellfires, LGB's, Rockeye, etc... because of the area you can cover per dollar spent. One F/A-18 can bring much more death on a single Combat Air Patrol mission than this Willie Wonka Wonder Weapon ever could. Whizz-Bang technology that should never see the light of day, IMHO.
Pretty damned kewl, though!

lkd 05-09-2010 10:28 AM

True, but I think the issue is that this is more precisely controlled by ground teams. There's a LOT of ways that drone/CAS drops can go wrong, and it often involves civilian casualties. This weapon would likely replace a mortar team, not a rifle team, so I think it has awesome potential.

cpttango30 05-09-2010 11:26 AM

Again it looks cool but what happens when you get pinned down and OH SH!T your batteries run out for the targeting system? I guess you could use it as a club.

When will these whiz bang engineers learn combat + batteries= Dead soldiers

I have never trusted any electronics with my life. I kept a 2 cases of batteries for the GPS I kept 2 cases of batteries for the NVG's. The NVG's still almost killed me when I was hauling a D7 dozer down a hill and the dam things shut off.

KISS Keep It Simple STUPID

lkd 05-09-2010 12:43 PM

Well, it's an interesting argument, but I reckon that the fire team would be trained on manual operations as well. All weapon systems like that should be able to operate in a degraded mode.

And I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure that there's a crotchety Colonel in materiel acquisitions right now that's putting up the same arguments as you are, and he's probably the final signing authority :D

IGETEVEN 05-09-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpttango30 (Post 282706)
Again it looks cool but what happens when you get pinned down and OH SH!T your batteries run out for the targeting system? I guess you could use it as a club.

The optics targeting system is black for a reason. "SCIBOTS"

SolorChargedInternalBatteryOpticsTargetingSystem. :cool:

Jack

JonM 05-09-2010 01:46 PM

damn if janet reno had that she coulda killed all those people in waco without a big fire :/ its scary when the government greatly outstrips the ability of the people to keep and bear arms...

suprdave 05-09-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpttango30 (Post 282706)
Again it looks cool but what happens when you get pinned down and OH SH!T your batteries run out for the targeting system? I guess you could use it as a club.

I don't care what it uses as a power system. If it gives our boys an advantage, I say give every soldier one. You should feel the same way, too.

lonyaeger 05-09-2010 02:46 PM

And they say it's for use up to 700 meters away. If it was a close-quarters weapon, I would think the batteries would be more of a concern.

CA357 05-09-2010 03:04 PM

If it saves our brave warriors lives or gives them a needed edge, give 'em all one.


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