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stewmills 02-24-2014 02:44 AM

Is this an Arisaka Type 38?
 
Hi...First and foremost I am new to this site so my apologies in advance if I break an forum rules.

I am trying to help my 92 year old great uncle identify a rifle he brought back from WWII and also replace a part that an ex threw out in a fit of rage. He is the real deal, and the story from his mouth is that he and 5 of his comrades were inspecting a cave and two other guys drew the short straw that day. The three stood guard at the mouth while two went in, and at the entrance to the cave was two rifles. As the two soldiers went to investigate the rifles they were killed. Another of my uncle's good friends was injured, and as they hauled him away he asked Jack to send him one of the rifles home. Jack kept one for himself and sent the other one home as he had promised. This is of course a short summary, but to hear him tell it is very sobering.

I have done some research and am thinking it is a type 38, and I think the only thing that is missing is the safety. He said he didn't have the scope or tripod.

If you have any insight into the gun, model, year, what the serial number designates, etc...I would greatly appreciate it and it will help me in bringing this back to its original condition for my great uncle that served this great country and stood alongside many of our relatives as they gave their lives fighting for our freedom!

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http://i62.tinypic.com/27yydt5.jpg

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kytowboater 02-24-2014 02:51 AM

Don't know but great rifle and history.


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303tom 02-24-2014 02:57 PM

Yes that is a Type 38 & part of the bolt is missing !................

http://www.castle-thunder.com/model.htm

SSGN_Doc 02-24-2014 03:10 PM

Definitely a 38. Definitely beleivable as a bring back rifle, because it still has the mum markings on the receiver. The gas shield/safety is the obvious part missing from the bolt.

Numrich lists the part as being in stock. may want to check out their schematic for any othe parts that may be missing as well, such as the spring, etc.

Here's a link:

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Arisaka-33127/Type38-34709.htm

zaitsev44 02-24-2014 03:26 PM

Is this an Arisaka Type 38?
 
That indeed is a Type 38! Numrich is a good place to start, as stated prior. That's a very neat bringback with a even greater story! I thank your great uncle for his service and bravery! Also, the Type 38 didn't come standard issue with a scope or tripod, but it did have a dust cover. Your great uncles rifle was made in the Mukden Arsenal in Manchuria which made Arisakas from 1931-1945. Mukden only made 30,000 rifles. This particular one was made sometime between 1934-1940 or sometime soon after 1940. It's in 6.5x50mm Arisaka. The serial number tells year. Hope this helped!


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stewmills 02-25-2014 03:09 AM

Thanks for the replies. I think I have identified that the safety, spring, and firing pin are missing and was able to find them today and they are in the mail.

drboompa 02-25-2014 02:52 PM

Great rifle. There are forums devoted to it. WWW.surplusrifles.com for one. Having the mum is a real plus. My model 99 does not 😢


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303tom 02-26-2014 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drboompa (Post 1515954)
Great rifle. There are forums devoted to it. WWW.surplusrifles.com for one. Having the mum is a real plus. My model 99 does not 😢


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Type 99 !................LOL

stewmills 03-01-2014 03:50 PM

I got the firing pin, spring, and safety in the mail yesterday and hope to see Uncle Jack tomorrow to install and see if the parts complete the project.

Next, we want to test fire it but I am not sure of a few things:
1) Should I break it down and clean it with my other regular gun cleaner, primarily the barrel and bolt assembly, etc. along with a little oil just as if I were cleaning my .22lr?
2) Should we take it to the local hot-shot gun range/store and let them go through it to verify it is safe to shoot (not sure if these guys are versed in these antiques or just young pistol happy kids)?
3) Is the ammo easy to come by whereas a local gun shop or box store will have it or am I looking at ordering it at a premium? Quite honestly, I just want to get it working so Uncle Jack can put a few rounds through it before he is tool old to do so, so I am just looking for a small box of ~20 or so rounds.
4) How does the cleaning rod release? I have enough rod from my kit to clean the gun, but I can't seem to get the rod under the stock to release. I see that there is a metal piece on the right side of the stock just above where the first barrel band wraps around. Tried depressing this but it doesn't seem to do anything...I am thinking this has more to do with the tripod than the cleaning rod?

Thanks all!

Trez 03-01-2014 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stewmills (Post 1519370)
I got the firing pin, spring, and safety in the mail yesterday and hope to see Uncle Jack tomorrow to install and see if the parts complete the project.

Next, we want to test fire it but I am not sure of a few things:
1) Should I break it down and clean it with my other regular gun cleaner, primarily the barrel and bolt assembly, etc. along with a little oil just as if I were cleaning my .22lr?
2) Should we take it to the local hot-shot gun range/store and let them go through it to verify it is safe to shoot (not sure if these guys are versed in these antiques or just young pistol happy kids)?
3) Is the ammo easy to come by whereas a local gun shop or box store will have it or am I looking at ordering it at a premium? Quite honestly, I just want to get it working so Uncle Jack can put a few rounds through it before he is tool old to do so, so I am just looking for a small box of ~20 or so rounds.
4) How does the cleaning rod release? I have enough rod from my kit to clean the gun, but I can't seem to get the rod under the stock to release. I see that there is a metal piece on the right side of the stock just above where the first barrel band wraps around. Tried depressing this but it doesn't seem to do anything...I am thinking this has more to do with the tripod than the cleaning rod?

Thanks all!

Nice Arisaka! :D

To get the cleaning rod out, you just press the metal part underneath that holds on the band closest to the end of the barrel.

http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Bolt%...38rodcatch.jpg

The metal piece in the middle just holds the middle band, the Type 38 didnt have a monopod...


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