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Old 04-26-2012, 02:35 AM   #1
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Hey guys. I am in the market to buy my first AR15, along with my first M1911. But I have some uncertainty that I need cleared up. So let me set ya'll up:

I used to purchase WWII firearms and older "vintage" firearms (Mosins, Kar98k's, SKS's). But my preference is kind of changing now to the modern, but still historical, firearms. I also want to have more American guns and more guns that I can keep forever and ever and grow on.

So, hence why I would like an AR15, and an M1911 to go with it. I am thinking the AR15 because the system has been around since the late 1950's, and is still being used by every branch of our armed forces today (It is historical). I was tempted to go for an ACR, but they are too "Tacticool" in my opinion, and its a newer, "immature" weapon (Even though it uses a piston driven bolt). So I think i'll go with the AR15. The AR15 I had in mind was "Windham Weaponry's" basic AR15, 16" barrel, carbine (http://www.windhamweaponry.com/pdf/TechSheets/MPC%201-10-12NP.pdf).

Also hence why I would like an M1911. Designed and used since 1911, and is STILL in use today by most of our armed forces (Historical). I am leaning toward "Kimber's" Warrior/Desert Warrior 1911 (http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/warrior / http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/warrior#/1911/custom-ii/desertwarrior). Because of the night sights, ambidextrous safety, and the forward rails. Still deciding though which of the 2 styles I want to get.

For accessories: on the AR15, I was going to put some Magpul accessories on it, and use "PMag Maglevels" for magazines. For the forearm I was looking for a simple 16" free-float RIS, but haven't found one yet. For weapon illumination I was either going to put a PEQ-15/16 on the rails, or I was going to put a Surefire weapon light onto the rails. For the M1911, I was only going to put a light on the rails, which is either a Surefire X300 (http://www.skdtac.com/SureFire-X300-LED-WeaponLight-p/sur.315.htm), or a Surefire X400 (http://www.skdtac.com/SureFire-X400-LED-WeaponLight-p/sur.317.htm). I am leaning toward the X300 though, because I am not really a fan of lasers, and would be afraid of maybe becoming dependent on them and not on my iron sights, or something like that.

I myself do not have a lot of hands-on experience with modern day weapons, so If I could get ya'lls opinion on my choices and the weapons I chose I would appreciate it! Any input will help!
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:22 AM   #2
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You have done your research and are pretty much spot on with quality firearms. I would get the colt 1911 over the kimber especially if your going for historical.
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You have done your research and are pretty much spot on with quality firearms. I would get the colt 1911 over the kimber especially if your going for historical.
Well true, but I've been told and read that Colt's margin of quality has decreased. That their firearms aren't as reliable as they used to be. I myself am not sure of this though, can you verify this please?

Also, I am not fond of any of their 1911's, other than their original
1911A1 from wartime. Because, even though I am looking for history in my 1911, I am also looking for features and functionality.

I guess though maybe, I could eventually buy a Colt M1911A1 too?

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Well true, but I've been told and read that Colt's margin of quality has decreased. That their firearms aren't as reliable as they used to be.

Also, I am not fond of any of their 1911's, other than their original
1911A1 from wartime. Because, even though I am looking for history in my 1911, I am also looking for features and functionality.

I guess though maybe, I could eventually buy an M1911A1 too?
Colt's quality hasn't decreased, if anything, has gotten better. reliability, well any firearm that is mass produced could have problems, but Colt is way at the top of the game when it comes to the 1911. remember Colt is the orignal and the one being copied.

i just looked at a new Colt Commander about a month ago. it was, IMO perfection. beautiful blueing and the fit and finish was very, very good. price was very decent too, my dealer had it priced at $860 + tax.
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Well true, but I've been told and read that Colt's margin of quality has decreased. That their firearms aren't as reliable as they used to be. I myself am not sure of this though, can you verify this please?

Also, I am not fond of any of their 1911's, other than their original
1911A1 from wartime. Because, even though I am looking for history in my 1911, I am also looking for features and functionality.

I guess though maybe, I could eventually buy a Colt M1911A1 too?
To tell you the truth, the above highlighted statement would be more fitting if you substituted Kimber for Colt.





You asked, I'll reply.

Take a hard look at the Colt ARs. I have the LE6940 and love it!

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And the Colt Rail Gun will more than likely fit your 1911 requirements.

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To tell you the truth, the above highlighted statement would be more fitting if you substituted Kimber for Colt.

You asked, I'll reply.

Take a hard look at the Colt ARs. I have the LE6940 and love it!

<img src="http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44453"/>

And the Colt Rail Gun will more than likely fit your 1911 requirements.

<img src="http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44455"/>

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Listen to this man. He knows all things colt lol
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Dang you Cane!!! I was fine without a Colt in my teeny collection until you posted that Rail!!! Now I've got a keyboard soaked in slobber and drool!!
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To tell you the truth, the above highlighted statement would be more fitting if you substituted Kimber for Colt.

You asked, I'll reply.

Take a hard look at the Colt ARs. I have the LE6940 and love it!

Attachment 44453

And the Colt Rail Gun will more than likely fit your 1911 requirements.

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I have always loved Colt, and they are the first ones who made the M1911 AND the M16A1...so going with history and authenticity, yea they are the best.

Cept' with the actual AR15 Colt models, I can't seem to find just a basic 16" flat top reciever carbine. They all have flip up sights and wierd stocks. The reason I care to get a basic model is because I like to have all the stock/factory furniture with it, even if I am going to replace it with Magpul accessories. To me the rifle just feels complete having all that.

Also, I really want to support the smaller company: Windham Weaponry, as the owner and all the workers there, used to be at their Bushmaster factory, until Bushmaster was bought out, and they were all fired.

And the only thing with the Colt M1911, is that the Kimber Warrior 1911 has a lanyard adaptor, none of the Colt 1911's do. Also, the Colt "Rail Gun" doesn't have night sights.

So, whenever I can get out to a gun range, i'll rent both the Warrior and the Rail Gun. I'll see which one I like better.

Any other input?

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Dang you Cane!!! I was fine without a Colt in my teeny collection until you posted that Rail!!! Now I've got a keyboard soaked in slobber and drool!!
+10!

I'm gonna need to start keeping a bib at the computer.
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I'd consider Colt, Springfield, or RIA, in 1911A1s, if you're trying for

a more military-style no frills original.

IMHO, the extra expense of a Kimber is just borrowing trouble.


Midway is a decent source for parts.


Sorry, I know less about ARs than B.O. knows about integrity...

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